More and More and More, The Myth of the Energy Transition, and Energy Accumulation

In the 51st installment of The Atomic Exchange Podcast, co-hosts Dr. Goran Calic and Michael Tadrous break down Jean-Baptiste Fressoz’s book More and More and More and its core claim: societies do not “transition” neatly from one fuel to another, they stack new energy sources on top of old ones. They explain why common transition narratives can be misleading, why “clean” shifts often just move the material and emissions burden elsewhere, and what that means for real-world policy. Tune in for a clear, practical conversation on how energy actually changes, and why the details policymakers miss matter.