More Than Words: Are You Hearing or Actually Listening...The Difference Matters

In this thought-provoking episode, Jess and Claude dive into the power of work besties and intentional communication with Colleen Robinson and Deanna Pemberton, founders of Digital Dojo. Their work blends martial arts, coaching, and integral medicine—bringing fresh insights into how relationships thrive in both personal and professional settings.

Together, they unpack:

• Why listening is more than just hearing.
• How setting standards can be more empowering than boundaries.
• The role empathy plays in building authentic connections.
• Why two perspectives can be valid at the same time.
• Practical steps for self-empowerment and stronger relationships.

From “breath-to-breath listening” to reframing how we think about boundaries, this conversation challenges old patterns and equips you with tools for personal growth, better communication, and deeper connections.

🔑 Takeaways

• Work besties make work better.
• Communication is the foundation of any relationship.
• Standards > boundaries.
• Listening actively leads to understanding.
• Empowerment starts with self-awareness.

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Work Besties! Theme Song Written by Ralph Lentini @therallyband