Bob Wiley is terrified of everything… and that just might save him. In this episode Paul McDonald and Britt Mooney dive into What About Bob? to explore how baby steps, awkward sailing trips, and even death therapy reveal God’s plan to turn fear into freedom. We cover:

• why desperation can be a gift

• the lie of self-reliance vs the power of community

• divine interruptions that reroute your life

Grab the free study guide, share your biggest fear, and join the conversation as we discover how God meets us—one baby step at a time.

Buddy Young Jr. hears that first roar of laughter and everything changes. In this episode of Men at the Movies, host Paul McDonald sits down with Christian comedian Bob Smiley to break down Mr. Saturday Night (1992) and what it teaches men about courage, identity, and family.

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We talk about:

• Why the spotlight can feel safer than your own living room

• “You cannot let the love of the crowd replace the love of your family”

• How laughter is “ten times more powerful than morphine” and why joy heals

• Thick-skin vs. gooey-heart masculinity—being strong without shutting down

• Turning your “first laugh” moment into a lifelong calling

Whether you are a stand-up wannabe, a dad on the sidelines, or a guy wondering if your gifts matter, this conversation will challenge you to step into what you were created to be while staying present for the people who know the real you.

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Key words: Mr. Saturday Night, Billy Crystal, Bob Smiley, stand-up comedy, Christian podcast, faith and film, fatherhood, identity, courage, healing power of laughter, Men at the Movies, movie Bible study.

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Preview ► Camel treks, lit-match stoicism, and why great stories still point us to purpose.

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Show notes
Miles Spencer road-tested Lawrence of Arabia in real life—1,100 miles on camel, horse, and foot. We unpack resilience, purpose-driven adventure, and how epic stories reveal the Author behind ours.

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Questions

• When have you been surprised by someone’s response to your request in a positive way?
• Think of someone that you consider to be different from you. What are the ways in which you are similar?
• When have you had to do something that you knew was going to hurt?
• How can you develop resilience daily? What is something you can do that is uncomfortable that you can choose to do to develop comfort in the discomfort?
• How can your adventures have a purpose?
• How do you prioritize safety and comfort? How does this hurt your development?

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Coming up on the Men at the Movies podcast, we discus the movie Ronin. The term ronin refers to a class of samurai who are basically masterless warriors. Action reveals your character, which reveals your master. While you might think you don’t have a master, your choices and your actions reveal who or what that ruler might be. Whenever there is any doubt, there is not doubt. Join us as we discover God’s truth in this movie.

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Christian Schu is a dedicated filmmaker who sees filmmaking and advertising as storytelling arts. Since starting commercial filmmaking in 2015, he has focused on creating narratives that deeply engage viewers through emotion. His career includes work in virtual studios, sports events like the WTA Mallorca Open, and collaborations with German business speakers. Since 2019, he has been producing visually stunning content for top hi-fi brands including Focal Naim, Bowers & Wilkins, and Bang & Olufsen. Christian's passion for storytelling began with childhood Lego play, now translating into impactful, award-winning cinematic work. For more, visit https://christian-schu.com/.

Questions

• What stories leaves gaps and questions unanswered? 
How does a story with unanswered questions actually engage you more than a story that tells you everything you need to know?
• If God is the storyteller of your life, can you trust him with the unanswered questions and gaps in information? What would that look like?
• When have you made a great “disposable” friend?
• What do the patterns of your life reveal to be your priorities? Based on your actions, who/what is your master?
• What does it mean to “witness the wonder?”

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Paul McDonald and Wailer Giles engage in a detailed discussion about the film On A Clear Day, which tells a profound story of a man who is earnestly trying to figure out how to live his life better and find deeper meaning in a world that often feels broken. At the center of this narrative, a son longs deeply for his father’s approval, desperately seeking validation and recognition. Conversely, a father yearns for his son’s admiration and appreciation, creating a complex dynamic between them. Frank and Rob are both learning how to navigate and cope with their individual grief, yet they find themselves unable to give each other the support they truly need. Ultimately, transformation emerges as the pivotal miracle of the story, symbolizing hope and renewal amidst their struggles.

Questions

• What are the moments that trigger you? What is the common bond between them?
• Where do you feel the pull to be resigned to complacency?
• How have you refused to be pulled into complacency?
• How are you different from when you were in high school/college?
• When did you do everything you could do, and still failed?
• When has someone spoken the hard truths to you? How did you receive it?
• When have you spoken hard truths to others? How did that go?

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Coming up on the Men at the Movies podcast, we share our first ever live recording. JB and I discussed Click at a men’s retreat and how Michael’s character is a lot like us. He has a lot of pressures to try to balance, but he feels like he’s failing at all of them. He keeps looking forward for what comes next, and misses out on today. It’s like chasing a carrot, but what will it cost him and us to catch it?

Questions

• Where are you winning? Home? Work? Anywhere?
• Where do you feel behind?
• When was the last time you took a break?
• When have you disappointed the one’s who matter the most? How?
• How can you give yourself a break?
• How have you shown persistence through tough times?
• Where do you feel like your life is missing something? If you just had “this” (fill in the blank), then life would be good.
• What is the carrot worth?
• Where are you on autopilot?
• What is the most important thing that you can change?

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Paul McDonald talks with Greg Allan Martin about his calling as both a lawyer and an actor. They also discuss the show Shadrach and why it's a watchable series for the whole family.

About Greg:

Greg Allan Martin, a powerful and commanding presence onscreen, currently can be seen as a series regular playing a rugged rancher in the new SONY/Affirm Originals series SHADRACH, that just premiered on July 25, 2024 on Great American Pure Flix. A versatile actor, Martin has drawn attention for his ability to play such diverse characters as the redneck boat owner Jed opposite Jason Bateman in an iconic scene in the first season of OZARK, a guest star role as an irascible cancer patient opposite Katey Sagal in REBEL, a wealthy socialite experimenting with LSD opposite John Slattery in MAD MEN, arrogant surgeons in THE RESIDENT, HEARTBEAT and two years as Dr. Noah in THE YOUNG AND THE RESTLESS, and as a professional football coach in multiple seasons of the hugely popular MADDEN NFL video game.

Questions

• What are your core values? What is most important to you? How does you life align with those values? Where is there conflict?
• Why do you believe what you believe?

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Coming up on the Men at the Movies podcast, Paul and Sarah discuss A Star is Born.

If you or a loved one needs help, feels alone and like giving up, call 988 for the suicide hotline.

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The process of becoming a star

Calling

• You have something to say that needs to be said, an expression of the Kingdom.
• Your calling will be ridiculed, downplayed, and dismissed
• Discover a circle of like-hearted people

Invitation

• Invitation to come on stage-starts out terrifying, then becomes something that brings our hearts alive in joy
• We need to give ourselves permission to accept the invitation
• Our creativity is about bringing something into existence that doesn’t currently exist

Enemy

• Twists lies to sound like truth
• He takes what God creates and distorts it
• Goal is to get us to tap out and quit, to blow up our lives
• He introduces the trauma/sadness/grief we need to become who we were meant to become

Questions

• What is your talent? Gifting? Calling? Purpose?
• How has that been dismissed? Ridiculed? Downplayed?
• In what ways do you step into sharing your voice?
• Who are the like-hearted people in your life, the circle of people who love the same things, moving in the same direction?
• In what ways have you been invited on stage? How have you resisted the invitation?
• How do you express your creativity and gifting? What do you bring into existence that doesn’t currently exist?
• How has your grief shaped who you became?

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Audio quotes performed by Britt Mooney, Paul McDonald, and Tim Willard, taken from Epic (written by John Eldredge) and Song of Albion (written by Stephen Lawhead).

Southerly Change performed by Zane Dickinson, used under license from Shutterstock

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