In this episode of the Marketing Dribble Podcast, hosts Rob Boyle and Jonny Kenyon welcome Jordan Stachini, founder of co&co — a no-fluff, ROI-driven marketing agency based in Manchester. Together, they dive into the real meaning of conversions, why ROI isn't just about sales, and the importance of aligning sales and marketing teams for long-term success.

Jordan shares her insights on the critical role of strategy in marketing, how to manage stakeholder expectations, and the common mistakes businesses make when chasing conversions. The conversation explores how to measure the impact of marketing activities beyond direct revenue, how different channels like SEO and paid search require different approaches to conversion, and why balancing short-term wins with longer-term goals is crucial. They also discuss the full customer journey, the importance of post-sale follow-up, and practical ways to encourage repeat conversions.

Packed with no-nonsense advice and actionable tips, this is a must-listen for anyone serious about making their marketing efforts truly count.

Connect with Jordan: linkedin.com/in/jordanstachini

In this episode of the Marketing Dribble podcast, hosts Rob and Jonny welcome Dawn Little, a marketing content manager and podcast producer.

Dawn shares her journey in podcasting, emphasising the importance of creating engaging and entertaining content, especially in the often dry field of HR. The conversation explores how to leverage mistakes for marketing success, the balance between entertainment and business value, and effective content strategies.

Dawn also discusses guerrilla marketing tactics, community engagement, and the significance of planning seasonal content. The episode concludes with valuable advice for aspiring podcasters.

Connect with Dawn Little: linkedin.com/in/dawn-little

In this episode of the Marketing Dribble Podcast, Jonny and Rob chat with PR consultant Saffron Sumner about her journey from marketing into PR. She breaks down the power of storytelling, strategic media placements, and how to get businesses to see the real value of PR.

We dive into the balance between personal and professional branding, the realities of freelancing, and the common PR scams to watch out for. Saffron also shares practical advice for anyone thinking about going freelance, the essential tools every PR pro should have, and some clever pitching techniques that actually work.

On top of that, she talks about her passion for charity work, the lessons she’s learned from self-employment—like building confidence and managing money—and where AI fits into the future of PR. If you're in marketing, PR, or just curious about the industry, this one’s packed with insights you won’t want to miss.

Connect with Saffron linkedin.com/in/saffron-sumner