In this episode of Making Up As We Go, Elanna and Paddy are joined by their close friends Sarah and Paul Grant for a relaxed, funny and honest conversation about marriage, parenting, friendship and keeping your relationship strong in the middle of everyday chaos.

From how Sarah and Paul met, to raising three kids, navigating conflict, prioritising date nights, and learning how to communicate well, this episode is full of real-life chat, shared wisdom and plenty of laughs along the way. There’s also a quick-fire round, stories from years of friendship, and of course, a round of Pearls of Wisdom to finish.

This is a conversation about building a healthy marriage, making space for each other, and remembering that even in the busiest seasons of life, connection still matters.

If you enjoy podcasts about marriage, parenting, family life, relationships, faith, friendship and honest conversations, you’re in the right place.

In this episode:

• How Sarah & Paul met
• Marriage and communication in busy family life
• Conflict, connection and understanding each other
• Why date nights matter after kids
• Friendship, shared history and family life
• Quick-fire questions
• Pearls of Wisdom

Hosted by: Elanna & Paddy
Podcast: Making Up As We Go

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• The Vintage Hunt: How the "one clothing item a month" rule was bent (but not broken) for a 28-pound vintage Wrangler jacket.

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