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Part2: Craig McLuckie, Founder and CEO of Stacklok and inventor of
Kubernetes, discusses his latest venture: Stacklok, an Enterprise MCP
Platform that makes developers and AI agents more productive.

• 00:12 The 2-min Stacklok Pitch
• 01:47 An Enterprise-grade MCP Platform
• 06:28 The Case for Smaller Models
• 07:09 Are Clients Ready?
• 11:36 The Winners and Losers
• 14:20 Stacklok's Major Competitor
• 17:48 Craig's Objectives
• 18:56 Open-source and the Red Hat Machine
• 22:22 The Father of Kubernetes
• 24:22 AI Ethics
• 26:10 For Fun

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/craigmcluckie/
Website: http://stacklok.com

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Craig McLuckie is the Founder and CEO of Stacklok and one of the original inventors of Kubernetes — the open-source container orchestration system that became the backbone of modern cloud infrastructure. After leading Kubernetes into the CNCF and navigating VMware's pivot under Broadcom, Craig made a sharp turn and founded Stacklok: an Enterprise MCP Platform designed to make developers and AI agents dramatically more productive in secure, enterprise environments.

In this episode, Craig and Al Martin explore what it means to build again after building something that changed the industry — and what the next wave of enterprise AI infrastructure actually requires.

In this episode:

• 01:14 Meet Craig McLuckie — background, Kubernetes origins
• 10:08 Tanzu and Broadcom — what that chapter looked like from the inside
• 11:28 Stacklok and the Big Pivot — why MCP, why now
• 19:57 I Don't Know! — a rare founder moment of intellectual honesty
• 21:32 Success is a Poor Teacher — what winning can hide from you
• 23:36 The Future Developer — how AI changes what developers do
• 26:38 Hiring Developers — what Craig looks for now

Connect with Craig: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/craigmcluckie/ Website: http://stacklok.com

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First Aired Apr 23, 2025

If you've been following the AI space lately, this episode hits differently the second time around.

When Al sat down with Ruchir Puri — Chief Scientist of IBM Research, IBM Fellow, and the architect behind Watson and watsonx — the conversation covered ground that's only gotten more relevant since: the death of prompt engineering, the rise of agentic AI, and why 2025 was always going to be the year agents broke through in the enterprise.

Ruchir doesn't deal in hype. He deals in systems — real ones, running at scale, in industries where a hallucinated number has consequences. In this masterclass, he walks through inference scaling, memory in AI systems, and what it actually means to build AI that's useful rather than just impressive.

If you're new to the show, this is the episode to start with. If you've heard it before — trust us, it lands differently now.

Key moments:

• 12:21 — Why prompt engineering is already fading (and what replaces it)
• 13:39 — Inference scaling: the frontier that's not about training anymore
• 16:26 — Why AI systems that "forget" are failing us
• 17:56 — The full agentic loop: Think, Plan, Act, Execute, Observe, Reflect
• 23:45 — Why enterprise AI agents are no longer a future state

Making Data Simple is hosted by Al Martin, WW VP Technical Sales, IBM.

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Making Data Simple dives into the exciting world of synthetic data with Adam Kamor, Co-Founder & Head of Engineering at Tonic.ai — a company building a synthetic data platform to power AI and software development. Adam unpacks how synthetic data is revolutionizing the way we build smarter, safer AI systems.

• 01:31 Meet Adam Kamor
• 08:43 The Road to Software Engineering
• 11:10 Defining Synthetic Data
• 13:46 The Need for Synthetic Data
• 15:17 Synthetic Data with AI
• 17:59 Tonic.ai
• 18:57 Pros & Cons of Synthetic Data
• 25:40 Tonic.ai's Differentiation
• 27:58 The Tech
• 30:16 Biggest Competitor
• 32:34 The Use Case
• 33:37 Where Synthetic Data Fails
• 37:59 For Fun

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamkamor Website: https://www.tonic.ai/

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Making Data Simple dives into the world of data security with Josh Scott, CISO and VP of Security at Hydrolix — a real-time data platform built for massive scale. Josh unpacks critical challenges like AI adoption, cybersecurity priorities, and how organizations can harness data to stay ahead, all while keeping performance high and costs down.

• 01:02 Investing
• 04:25 Meet Josh Scott
• 10:54 Adopting AI Safely
• 14:42 What IS a CISO?
• 17:14 What Keeps a CISO Up at Night?
• 19:11 Using AI for Security
• 20:47 Two Phones?
• 21:36 Password Sharing
• 23:03 CISO Prioritization
• 27:39 Signal From Noise
• 29:29 Leadership Style
• 32:27 The Crystal Ball

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuascott/

Website: https://www.hydrolix.io/

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Tom Griffiths, Henry R. Luce Professor at Princeton University, joins the show to explore the surprising science behind how we actually think. His new book, The Laws of Thought, bridges computational cognitive science and AI—challenging assumptions about decision-making, neural networks, and the path to artificial general intelligence.

Show Notes

Timestamps

• 01:21 – Meet Tom Griffiths
• 05:27 – Tom's Book
• 06:58 – A Neural Network
• 09:55 – AGI?
• 19:10 – Writing the Book
• 20:45 – The Laws of Thought
• 27:24 – The Neural Network Surprise
• 31:33 – Learning from Experts
• 35:19 – Decision Making vs. Probability
• 42:36 – Government AI Considerations

Links
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tom-griffiths-7b31a0364
Book: The Laws of Thought – Macmillan

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Welcome back to Making Data Simple, where we explore how data-driven strategies ignite innovation and transform businesses. In this exciting episode, we sit down with Marco Rota, VP of Strategic Technology Alliances at Lumen Technologies, whose incredible journey spans from the glitz of Hollywood to leading-edge telecommunications. Tune in as Marco reveals how embracing a vibrant culture, drawing on lessons from the entertainment industry, and championing new technologies can propel teams and organizations to new heights of success. Get ready for an inspiring, behind-the-scenes look at how “culture eats strategy for breakfast”—and why that’s a game-changer for your organization, too!

• 01:47 – Meet Marco Rota
  Marco shares his background and how his career path took him from the dynamic world of Hollywood to a leadership role at Lumen Technologies. He underscores his passion for storytelling, collaboration, and innovation—elements that continue to shape his work in tech.
• 03:35 – Learnings from Hollywood
  Drawing on Hollywood’s fast-paced environment, Marco highlights the importance of creative thinking and adaptability. He explains how these traits help push organizations to stay ahead of disruption and continually evolve, just like the film industry does to meet audience demands.
• 10:56 – Transitioning to Lumen Technologies
  Marco describes his shift from entertainment into the telecommunications and technology space. He emphasizes the parallels between Hollywood and tech—both thrive on communication, audience engagement, and cutting-edge production processes.
• 15:55 – What IS Lumen Technologies
  Marco explains Lumen’s core mission: powering next-generation connectivity, cloud, edge computing, and security solutions. By marrying technology services with an innovative culture, Lumen seeks to help organizations accelerate data-driven transformation.
• 18:29 – Culture versus Technology
  An organization’s culture can be its greatest asset—or its biggest hurdle. Culture “eats strategy for breakfast” because fostering collaboration, trust, and continuous learning is what truly drives successful technology initiatives forward.
• 24:20 – The Management System
  Marco talks about the framework for leadership and team alignment at Lumen, which integrates vision, purpose, and measurable goals. This system ensures that cultural values and strategic objectives reinforce each other—resulting in cohesive, energized teams ready to tackle the biggest challenges in tech.

Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/marcorotapix

Website: https://www.lumen.com/en-us/home.html

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Tackling the messy reality of data fueling artificial intelligence, Andrea Muttoni—President & CPO at Story—joins the show to unpack how Story is building an AI-native infrastructure for intellectual property and training data. We dig into making the $80T IP asset class programmable, traceable, and monetizable, and how Story aims to turn “mysterious training data blobs” into transparent rights and payments for creators and enterprises.

• 01:10 Meet Andrea Muttoni
• 06:49 Story's Core Mission
• 13:41 IP Monetization
• 21:08 Biggest Competitor
• 22:49 Compute, Models, & Data
• 27:46 What to IP, Where Not
• 31:16 Blockchain
• 34:54 Protecting Your IP
• 41:36 Reaching Story

Andrea explains how Story is building a blockchain-based IP and data layer so AI systems can train on licensed content while proving usage, enforcing licenses, and automating payments to rights holders. We talk about the practical challenges of cleaning and labeling real-world data, what “IP-safe” datasets look like in practice, and how developers and companies can plug into Story’s infrastructure. Andrea also shares where blockchain actually adds value (and where it doesn’t), why he thinks “AI can’t scale on legal ambiguity,” and concrete steps creators and founders can take today to protect and monetize their IP in the AI era.

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/muttoni
Website: https://www.story.foundation/

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