Latest episode is with Geoff Rowe of the Live Comedy Association

We talk about the first Live Comedy Day which takes place on April 1st as well as the wider aims of the Live Comedy Association in both acting as a network for the industry and also acting as a united front for the industry when dealing with the government.

We also discuss the Live Comedy Survey conducted by Brunel University on the Live Comedy Sector as well as comparison with organisations in other sectors such as the Music Venue Trust.

Live Comedy Day: https://livecomedyday.co.uk/

Live Comedy Association: https://livecomedyassociation.co.uk/

Comedy Sector Survey: https://livecomedyassociation.co.uk/comedy-survey

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"It's a small town girls misadventures in Hollywood. And it is both poignant and funny. I think of the essays as like crepes. They're kind of like individually snackable, but collectively filling.

What I love about the essay format is it's kind of propulsive and you move through it with the momentum that I really appreciate as a reader. And so I wanted to write the book that way."

- Author and Podcaster Courtney Kocak, we talk about her upcoming book Girl Gone Wild, a memoir based on a series of essays covering “Tales of ambition, delusion, drugs, sex, and misogyny... including selling T-shirts on the Girls Gone Wild bus”

As well as the book we also talk about Courtney’s varied career, from performing as a stand-up, writing for an animated comedy show as well as her extensive career in podcasting including her show Private Parts Unknown which has had over 2 million downloads and her newsletter Podcast Bestie which is full of ways to make the most of your podcast.

Website: https://www.courtneykocak.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneykocak/

Girl Gone Wild:

US: https://bookshop.org/p/books/girl-gone-wild-courtney-kocak/

UK: https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/girl-gone-wild-courtney-kocak/18ae2cd0ad59de93

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PrivatePartsUnknown

Private Parts Unknown Podcast: https://pod.link/1154304419

The Bleeders Podcast: https://pod.link/1628014529

Podcast Bestie Substack: https://podcastbestie.substack.com/welcome

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“I'm telling all my artists to go on LinkedIn. It's like a nice frontier.”

Latest episode is with Artist and author of 'Artpreneur' Miriam Schulman.

We talk about her giving up working in Financial Services to focus full time on her art, we also talk about the process of getting her book Artpreneur made and published as well as The Inspiration Place Podcast which has just had it’s 400th Episode and how even the business side of things engages her creativity.

Website: https://www.schulmanart.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/schulmanart/

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/schulmanart

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@schulmanart

The Inspiration Place Podcast

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/27RvGQBHdUorqSTPNri2cA

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-inspiration-place/id1431934450

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Latest guest is David Hoskin talking about his ‘Comedy Horror Mime’ show A Haunted House we talk about taking the show to the Edinburgh Fringe, his upcoming (at time of recording) stints at Soho Theatre and Mumbai Fringe, how to balance Comedy and Horror and his creative career from Illustration to Voiceovers to Film Making.

Website: https://www.davidhoskin.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/davidhoskinperformer/

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“ Everyone wants to get involved and it's generating huge amount of work for actors and crew all around the world, which is very hard to find in other parts of the media. So Hollywood is now involved as well, and every major Hollywood studio you can think of is looking or experimenting with this format and sort of seeing how they can bring the Hollywood touch to it.” Latest guest is Jen Cooper, founder of Vertical Drama Love.

Jen is an expert in the rapidly growing area of vertical dramas, we talk about what vertical dramas are and the rapid rise in popularity of vertical dramas in the west and the change in the format from its beginnings in China.

We talk about what moving from niche to mainstream in the west may mean for the format, how large players like Disney starting to offer vertical content may change things and also the impact for Jen as someone who has been involved in the sector initially as a fan and now as a consultant.

Website: https://www.verticaldramalove.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/verticaldramalove/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@verticaldramalove

Guardian Vertical Drama Article: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2026/feb/18/vertical-drama-phone-films-to-watch

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“He said ‘[I hate] loud Northern women who swear’ and he’s obviously talking about me” Latest guest is Martha Pailing whose show ‘Chat Sh*t, Get Hit’ is on at Soho Theatre on Feb 5th and 6th.

We talk about developing the show over a number of years and the importance of Arts Council Funding, her Fringe experience, working with a team behind the scenes on her solo show as well as the differences between Spoken Word and Stand Up.

Website: https://www.marthapailing.com/

Soho Theatre Tickets: https://sohotheatre.com/events/chat-sht-get-hit

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marthapailing/

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“The mission is to educate and promote mental health through the arts, mostly through Comedy and for people to talk about mental health and difficult subjects through comedy”

Latest guest is Charlotte Laidet who is Festivals and Programme Director for Leicester Comedy Festival which is running from the 4th to the 22nd February.

We talk about what it takes to put the festival together, why Leicester has an important place in the festival calendar and the other work that Big Difference Company who run the festival do around promoting health and well being using Comedy and promoting Comedy as an art form.

Website: https://www.comedy-festival.co.uk/

Big Difference Company: https://bigdifferencecompany.co.uk/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leicscomedyfest/

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@leicscomedyfest

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LeicsComedyFest

Kids Festival and other links: https://t-sml.mtrbio.com/public/smartlink/leicscomedyfest

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“ I'm very keenly aware of the whole, reliving my life thing in different forms and having that replace my real memories sometimes, and that can be a kind of a scary thing because it is this thing that happened to me that I didn't talk about for so many years and like in public, like never, you know? And now I've spoken about it in so many forms and you know how memory works, you tell it and you keep remembering it and the memory can change ” - Latest guest Comedian and Author Krystal Evans

We talk about her experience as one of the writers and performers on Channel 4’s 'Mitchell and Webb are Not Helping', her experiences as a stand up and her Fringe show ‘Hottest Girl at Burn Camp’ and the book and the audiobook of the same name which detail some her childhood experiences and how comedy can come from tragic experiences.

We also talk about the Scottish comedy scene, her Sex and Relationships podcast ‘Chris and Krystal are in Heat’ with fellow Comedian Chris Weir and being part of a crowdfunder for upcoming short film “How we’re really actually doing”

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/krystalevanscomedy/

Hottest Girl in Burn Camp Book: https://linktr.ee/thehottestgirlatburncamp

Audiobook on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/1kldAghwmjrj3wxDF0PMZL

Mitchell and Webb are not helping: https://www.channel4.com/programmes/mitchell-and-webb-are-not-helping

Website: https://www.comedykrystal.com/

Chris and Krystal are in heat Podcast: https://shows.acast.com/chris-and-krystal-are-in-heat

Linktree: https://linktr.ee/krystalevans

“How we’re really actually doing” film: https://www.instagram.com/hwrad.film/

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