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M&A Science

M&A Science

De: Kison Patel
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M&A Science, hosted by Kison Patel (Founder & CEO of DealRoom), is your go-to podcast for mastering the art of mergers and acquisitions. Each week, Kison and his expert guests from leading brands like Xerox, FastLap, and Cisco dig deep into real-world M&A strategies, offering actionable insights to optimize your M&A practice. Whether you're an experienced practitioner or new to the field, M&A Science provides practical advice on key topics like sourcing, due diligence, integration, divestitures, and more. With over 300 episodes, this podcast is the premier thought leadership resource designed to streamline your deal-making process. Start listening today and visit mascience.com/podcast to access over 300 episodes. Brought to you by DealRoom, the leading M&A optimization platform used by the best M&A teams around the world Economía
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  • Building Successful Buy-and-Build Platforms: Alpine's Blueprint for Strategic M&A with Haley Van Cleve
    Jul 28 2025

    Haley Van Cleve, Partner at Apline Investors


    Haley joins us to decode the art of building successful buy-and-build platforms from the ground up. In this episode, Haley walks through Alpine's proven methodology for transforming small $3M EBITDA businesses into $100M+ platforms through strategic M&A and operational excellence. Learn how Alpine's unique talent model, integration-first approach, and buyer-led M&A strategy has driven over 850 deals, including 170 in 2024 alone. Whether you're a corporate development professional or private equity investor, this conversation delivers actionable insights on platform identification, integration best practices, and scaling through acquisitions.

    Things you will learn:

    • Alpine's team-market-business prioritization model for identifying $3M businesses with scaling potential

    • Building 20-30 day system rollouts upfront to enable high-velocity acquisitions without operational breakdowns

    • CEO-in-residence programs and profit interest pools that align management for long-term value creation

    Episode Chapters

    [00:02:30] Alpine's Evolution – From $400M Fund V to $4.5B today with 180+ team members across three offices

    [00:04:30] Platform Definition – Why Alpine takes a liberal view of platforms, starting with $3M EBITDA businesses in fragmented markets

    [00:07:30] Software vs. Services – Rule of 40 for software deals versus EBITDA-focused services acquisitions and different scaling approaches

    [00:13:30] Legal Tech Case Study – Building a $4M revenue time-billing business into a $30M+ platform through four strategic add-ons

    [00:16:00] Integration Excellence – People and systems integration within 20-30 days to maintain visibility during high-velocity M&A

    [00:22:00] Vision Alignment – Setting clear expectations upfront about system standardization and operational changes before LOI

    [00:25:00] Platform Challenges – Overhiring executive teams early and building integration capacity before closing deals

    [00:36:00] In-House M&A Teams – When and how to build dedicated M&A functions at portfolio companies for double-digit acquisition strategies

    [00:44:00] CEO-in-Residence Program – How Alpine hires executives before finding deals and pairs them with markets for 12+ month searches

    [00:49:00] When Deals Go Sideways – COVID impact on K-12 businesses and pivoting M&A strategies when market assumptions prove wrong

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    59 m
  • M&A in Healthcare with John Palusci
    Jul 21 2025

    John Palusci, Former Vice President of Transformation and Strategic Finance, BAYADA

    In this episode of M&A Science, John Palusci, former Vice President of Transformation and Strategic Finance at BAYADA, joins Kison Patel to discuss how to build a repeatable, Buyer-Led M&A™ engine within a nonprofit structure. John walks through his journey from IT to finance to corporate development, detailing how he helped scale BAYADA’s deal strategy with a focus on long-term value, integration-led diligence, and mission alignment. He shares real lessons from joint ventures, cashless acquisitions, and how to avoid surprises in highly regulated industries like healthcare.

    Things you will learn:

    • How to structure healthcare M&A for long-term mission alignment

    • What a “conceptual pro forma” is and why it accelerates early deal screening

    • How to manage integration risk in people-first, regulation-heavy industries

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    Episode Chapters

    [00:01:00] John’s unconventional path from IT to M&A leadership

    [00:05:00] Running joint ventures with hospital systems

    [00:07:30] Third-party valuation in nonprofit deals

    [00:10:00] How BAYADA sourced and filtered deals

    [00:13:00] Key reasons to kill a healthcare deal early

    [00:16:00] How BAYADA transitioned from for-profit to nonprofit

    [00:22:30] Standardizing diligence with a conceptual pro forma

    [00:27:00] Managing talent transitions in home healthcare

    [00:34:00] Cashless deals: how they work and when they’re possible

    [00:38:30] Integration-led diligence and DealRoom’s role in execution

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    57 m
  • The Secrets to Sourcing Proprietary Deals in Private Equity with Ryan Gable
    Jul 17 2025

    Ryan Gable, Managing Partner, BW Forsyth Partners

    Ryan discusses how his team uses a hybrid private equity model backed by Barry-Wehmiller to execute people-first, long-term acquisitions. With over 55 deals and zero exits, Forsyth has developed a sourcing and integration playbook that challenges traditional PE norms, focusing instead on trust, cultural alignment, and multi-decade value creation.

    Ryan breaks down how to build relationships that convert to proprietary deal flow, structure rollover equity with flexibility, and align seller incentives for lasting outcomes.

    Things you will learn:

    • How to source proprietary deals by building trust with founders and prioritizing cultural fit

    • Why Forsyth avoids traditional PE norms like over-leveraging and fixed exit timelines

    • How they structure flexible equity rollovers and provide liquidity without needing to sell

    Episode Chapters:
    • [00:02:00] From Investment Banking to Building Forsyth with Barry-Wehmiller

    • [00:07:00] Why Barry-Wehmiller Created a New Investment Arm Instead of Scaling Internally

    • [00:10:00] The Hybrid Equity Model: Strategic Backing + PE Agility

    • [00:14:30] Rollover Equity and How Forsyth Structures Flexible Liquidity

    • [00:23:30] From Auction Fatigue to Sourcing Proprietary Deals

    • [00:26:00] How Forsyth Builds Trust With Sellers (And Wins Deals Off-Market)

    • [00:31:00] Why Founders Should Think About Selling Before They’re Ready to Retire

    • [00:41:00] Structuring Earnouts that Sellers Actually Want to Hit

    • [00:49:00] The “Less is More” Approach to Post-Close Integration

    • [00:56:00] The Future of M&A: Return Expectations, Capital Saturation, and Deal Discipline

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