From the township of Alexandra to the grandest stages in the world, Kitty Phetla has redefined what it means to be a South African ballerina. Trained under the legendary Martin Schönberg, and now a celebrated choreographer, educator, and creative collaborator, Phetla has built her life around the belief that discipline is grace made visible.

In this milestone 100th episode of Listen To Your Footsteps,she sits down with Kojo Baffoe to reflect on the mental, physical, and spiritual architecture of her art. It’s a conversation about power disguised as poise, and the unseen work behind effortless beauty.

Together, they explore:

• The moment a nine-year-old girl from Alexandra was “discovered” and how that encounter shaped her destiny.
• Why she believes mastery is born from respect, not passion.
• How pain, repetition, and stillness form the language of her movement.
• What it means to teach in a YouTube generation while remaining true to classical rigour.
• The creative alchemy behind her collaborations with jazz pianist Nduduzo Makhathini, where dance becomes spiritual improvisation.
• Why recognition, like her Wall of Fame star, still feels secondary to purpose.

This is not a story about fame or success; it’s about becoming non-human in pursuit of mastery, where pain turns to rhythm, and the mind moves long before the body does.

Whether you know Kitty Phetla from the stage, the studio, or the airwaves, this episode reveals the woman behind the grace: focused, disciplined, and forever in motion.

Listen now on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Afripods⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Show Music by Kweku 'Taygo' Baffoe

Produced by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ayob Vania

For over three decades, Pabi Moloi has been one of South Africa’s most trusted and recognisable voices. From her early days as a child performer to her years behind the microphone, she has grown up in the public eye, learning, unlearning, and finding her balance between light and loud.

In this introspective episode of Listen To Your Footsteps, Pabi opens up about what it truly means to be a lightworker in a media space that often rewards spectacle over substance. She reflects on leaving radio, rediscovering her imagination, and creating a new rhythm for her life, one rooted in mindfulness, motherhood, and meaning.

Through humour, candour, and gentle wisdom, she explores:

• How to protect your energy and define your own authenticity.
• Why choosing silence can sometimes speak the loudest.
• What the transition from radio to podcasting has taught her about creative freedom.
• How to raise boys with empathy and strength in today’s South Africa.
• Why boundaries are a form of self-respect, not distance.

This conversation is a reminder that power doesn’t always come from being seen or heard; it can also come from choosing presence, peace, and purpose.

Whether you know Pabi Moloi from television, radio, or her new journey into podcasting, this episode invites you to meet her differently: as a woman stepping fully into her light, on her own terms.

Listen now on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Afripods⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or wherever you get your podcasts.

You can find the latest from Pabi Moloi on the following platforms:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠| ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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• ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠WATCH | LISTEN⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Zebra Culture Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Recorded at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Vodcast TV⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Show Music by Kweku 'Taygo' Baffoe

Produced by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ayob Vania