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Lets Talk Family Enterprise explores global ideas, concepts and models related to family enterprise advising. Brought to you by Family Enterprise Canada, specifically created for FEA designates and members of Family Enterprise Canada.© 2025 Economía
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  • 71: Parenting Adult Children in Family Business

    71: Parenting Adult Children in Family Business
    Sep 30 2025
    Aileen Miziolek hosts an in-depth conversation with Alyson Schafer, an acclaimed author and Adlerian family counsellor. In this thoughtful 30-minute episode, they touch on issues around over- and under-functioning children, why the notion of fair vs. equal in childhood can impact long-term family business dynamics, and how tackling the unique challenges of enterprising families requires maturity, open-mindedness and an understanding that sometimes personal responsibility is the only path forward. All views, information, and opinions expressed during this podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Family Enterprise Canada. Guest bio Alyson Schafer is one of Canada’s leading parenting experts. She promotes a firm but friendly “democratic parenting” style and offers practical solutions backed by extensive evidence-based research. Alyson is an Adlerian family counsellor, author, and internationally acclaimed expert who empowers families by sharing her principles, rules, and tools for raising co-operative and resilient kids. You can learn more about Alyson Schafer on her website and LinkedIn. Key Takeaways [0:26] Aileen Miziolek welcomes Alyson Schafer and asks her to share about her experience with family business dynamics. [3:01] Understanding the notion of fair vs. equal is a large part of how a family orients itself. Alyson explains how the abundance and scarcity models may influence how this manifests. [6:48] While intergenerational patterns are real, there is always hope for change when there is maturity and open-mindedness. [10:36] Family businesses do not have the freedom of relative anonymity in the workplace: family tensions can easily translate into business tensions. [12:52] Personal responsibility is required for change. Alyson offers a dance metaphor to illustrate that the “other” doesn’t always need to start the process. [15:15] Children differentiate to stop competition. Alyson warns against bean-counting to prevent under-functioning. [20:46] Alyson shares tips to manage over- and under-functioning in any given system. [23:34] Co-leading siblings is possible, but will require strong buy-in, well-defined roles and responsibilities, and generational support. [26:15] Solving problems at the parent level is usually the fastest way to power change. [27:29] North America is singular in its propensity to cut off family members! [29:43] Links to Alyson Schafer’s contact, podcast, and books can be found in the links below. [31:11] Aileen thanks Alyson Schafer for sharing so much of her knowledge, and closes this episode by reminding listeners to rate and subscribe. If you enjoyed today’s episode, you can subscribe to Let’s Talk Family Enterprise on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and other podcast apps. Please remember to share this episode with family, friends, and colleagues. Share your thoughts with us at fea@familyenterprise.ca. Mentioned in this episode Alyson Schafer’s Podcast: Parenting The Adlerian Way Ain't Misbehavin’: Tactics for Tantrums, Meltdowns, Bedtime Blues and Other Perfectly Normal Kid Behaviors, by Alyson Schafer Honey, I Wrecked the Kids: When Yelling, Screaming, Threats, Bribes, Time-outs, Sticker Charts and Removing Privileges All Don’t Work, by Alyson Schafer Breaking The Good Mom Myth, by Alyson Schafer More about Family Enterprise Canada Family Enterprise Canada FEC on Facebook FEC on Twitter FEC on LinkedIn
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    32 m
  • 70: How to NOT Ruin Your Kids With Money

    70: How to NOT Ruin Your Kids With Money
    Aug 21 2025
    Steve Legler speaks with U.S. estate planning attorney Mark Shiller about his book, How to NOT Ruin Your Kids With Money: Navigating the Challenges of Transitioning Wealth in Families. Together, they discuss issues around character, competence, and capacity, the maturation process, and the uniqueness of each family member, with lots of useful tidbits for parents and rising generation family members along the way. All views, information, and opinions expressed during this podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Family Enterprise Canada. Guest bio Mark A. Shiller has been a practicing estate and business succession attorney and wealth consultant for over 20 years. He works with individuals, couples, and families in connection with their estate, tax, and business planning. His clients are typically business owners, professionals, and senior executives who appreciate his thoughtful and creative approaches to their often complicated personal, tax, and financial planning challenges. He is a Fellow of the American College of Trusts and Estates Counsel, former Chair of the Board of Governors of the Real Property, Probate and Trust Law Section of the State Bar of Wisconsin, Past President of the Milwaukee Estate Planning Forum, and Past Chair of the Estate and Trust Law Section of the Milwaukee Bar Association. Mark also served as an adjunct professor at the University of Wisconsin Law School for four years, teaching a course on estate and business planning for the privately-held enterprise. You can learn more about Mark Shiller on his website and LinkedIn. Key Takeaways [:26] Steve Legler welcomes Mark Shiller and asks him to share about the process that took him through to writing his book. [3:48] The minority, maturation, and maturity needs of any person impact their relationships with others and wealth; Marc shares an anecdote. [6:16] Wealth magnifies and reveals character; money can enable people to do damage. [8:08] Mark explains why resisting the urge to “fix it for them” is important when it comes to advising families. [12:08] Mark’s allowance system and how it both worked and failed. [14:52] Money conversations shouldn’t be all or nothing; raising kids is a process. [16:34] What’s the purpose of apple trees? [19:02] The definition of success as a parent shouldn’t be an imposition; involving the upcoming generation is a requirement of a continued legacy. [21:44] Modelling as a way of ensuring success. [22:47] On Al, Brittany and Carl, and the difference between value and virtue. [26:45] The danger zone and some tips on how to navigate it best, according to Mark. [29:32] Mark’s book recommendation and advice for advisors. [32:13] Steve thanks Mark Shiller for sharing his wisdom, and closes this episode by reminding listeners to rate and subscribe. If you enjoyed today’s episode, you can subscribe to Let’s Talk Family Enterprise on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and other podcast apps. Please remember to share this episode with family, friends, and colleagues. Share your thoughts with us at fea@familyenterprise.ca. Mentioned in this episode How to Not Ruin Your Kids with Money: Navigating the Challenges of Transitioning Wealth in Families, by Mark Shiller How to Know a Person: The Art of Seeing Others Deeply and Being Deeply Seen, by David Brooks More about Family Enterprise Canada Family Enterprise Canada FEC on Facebook FEC on Twitter FEC on LinkedIn
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    33 m
  • 69: The Skilled Facilitator

    69: The Skilled Facilitator
    Jul 24 2025
    In this episode, Aileen Miziolek speaks with renowned facilitator and author Roger Schwarz about the critical roles facilitators and consultants play—especially in complex systems like family enterprises. Roger explores how mutual learning, clear boundaries and transparency can elevate the value professionals bring to their clients, offering practical insights and tools for navigating advisory roles with compassion and clarity. All views, information, and opinions expressed during this podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Family Enterprise Canada. Guest bio Roger M. Schwarz, PhD, is an organizational psychologist and president and CEO of Roger Schwarz & Associates. For more than forty years, he has helped leadership teams and organizations achieve strong performance, solid working relationships, and individual well-being. His work is grounded in the premise that creating fundamental, systemic, and sustainable change requires that individuals, teams, and the larger organization change the mindset that guides their behaviour. You can learn more about Roger M. Schwarz on LinkedIn and the Roger Schwarz and Associates website. Key Takeaways [2:03] Aileen Miziolek welcomes Roger M. Schwarz and asks him to share a little bit about his background. [4:10] Roger starts off sharing the proper definition of a facilitator, and more importantly, what they cannot be. [6:28] The facilitator and consultant roles intersect and give rise to different possible titles. For Roger, it boils down to one question: What value do you bring to the client? [9:31] Roger underscores the more obvious traps of the facilitative consultant with a few examples. [12:06] The decision of which role to play is fraught with challenges, and the first may be a conversation with your client. [16:31] Engaging a system without becoming enmeshed is critical. Roger talks about boundaries and becoming a mirror. [18:38] Roger explains the unilateral control approach and mutual learning. [21:38] The five core values of mutual learning. [24:24] Roger shares the chess versus puzzle analogy. [25:40] Many facilitators and consultants often get stuck. Roger offers that they try the transparency test. [28:42] The role compassion plays in facilitating. [31:34] Roger tackles an issue he is passionate about: the use of agendas! Or rather, using the purpose and process method. [34:31] The purpose and process are established right before a meeting, but not so early as to become the meeting itself! [37:05] Roger shares the story of a good and a bad facilitation. [44:02] Roger shares who his books are for as well as some of the services and resources his office provides. [45:55] Aileen thanks Roger Schwarz for sharing so much of his knowledge, and closes this episode by reminding listeners to rate and subscribe. If you enjoyed today’s episode, you can subscribe to Let’s Talk Family Enterprise on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and other podcast apps. Please remember to share this episode with family, friends, and colleagues. Share your thoughts with us at fea@familyenterprise.ca. Mentioned in this episode Venesa Vasilakeris from McQuaig.com on building better teams. Smart Leaders, Smarter Teams: How You and Your Team Get Unstuck to Get Results, by Roger M. Schwarz The Skilled Facilitator: A Comprehensive Resource for Consultants, Facilitators, Coaches, and Trainers, by Roger M. Schwarz More about Family Enterprise Canada Family Enterprise Canada FEC on Facebook FEC on Twitter FEC on LinkedIn
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    47 m
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