How often do the best leaders lead by example, not title?

This week Shawn is joined by podcast host and the CEO of Calm, David Ko, to unpack the power and discipline behind the Shawnism: “Rarely Pull the CEO Card.”

The two discuss why great leaders resist the urge to “because I said so,” and instead, win people over through clarity, vulnerability, and conviction. They also share their thoughts on what it means to lead with persuasion instead of authority, how real influence comes from helping your team understand the why, and how sometimes the best thing a CEO can do is step back and let merit take the lead.

This episode is thoughtful, refreshing, and may help you resist that urge to take control of things better left for others.

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In a noisy world where everyone’s eager to be heard, slow down, ask better questions, and practice the lost art of presence. Talk less.

This week Shawn sits down with executive producer, philanthropist, and CEO of Explore.org, Charles Annenberg, to explore the overlooked power of listening. The two discuss how listening can transform “no’s” into new opportunities, why simplicity is often just complexity refined, and what nature teaches us about silence. They also talk about the importance of letting compliments stick, and why creativity is the ultimate tool for possibility.

Just like watching a video on Explore.org: Press play, kick back, take a breather, and listen. This episode is full of some incredible thoughts, especially for those of us that need a little help pressing the reset button.

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When life knocks you off balance, do you fight it—or learn to roll with it?

In this episode, Shawn sits down with renowned fitness personality, Steve Cook, to unpack the reason why adaptability might just be the most underrated superpower you can build.

The two dive into the pressure of perfection, the cost of always going full throttle, and how learning to “roll with it” applies in both fitness and life. Steve also opens up about the moments when pushing harder only led to burnout, and why sometimes the smartest move is to step back, breathe, and let the wave pass before you find your footing again.

This conversation is a reminder that strength isn’t just about grinding harder. Sometimes, it’s about knowing when to flow.

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