What do you do when the plan falls apart and there’s nowhere to hide?

Shawn Nelson sits down with former pro, broadcaster, and U.S. Davis Cup captain, Patrick McEnroe, to break down the mindset behind “Play It Where It Lies.”

Shawn and Patrick pull back the curtain on how versatility separates winners from everyone else, the trap of chasing the easy way out, and how fear of failure quietly kills more potential than losing ever could. Patrick also shares powerful stories and hard-earned lessons on adaptability, the true cost of fame, and why even the best only win about 54% of the points.

This episode proves that the goal isn’t perfection… it’s making your next move better than the last.

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What if the biggest problem with “sustainability” is that most of it simply doesn’t sustain?

This week Shawn sits down with Kurt Avery, Founder and President of Sawyer Products, to expose the truth behind greenwashing and unpack what real sustainability actually looks like in business, in products, and in impact.

Shawn and Kurt dive into what “real technology” means, Kurt’s powerful philosophy behind “there are no U-Hauls in heaven,” and why defining your personal “currency” changes everything in life and business. They also discuss how to spot when an “eco-friendly” product is total BS, and what happens when you create a solution to a problem affecting millions, and realize you have no choice but to act.

This episode will change how you think about purpose, profit, and building something that actually lasts.

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What if the biggest threat to your future isn’t failure, but the wrong people you let too close?

This week Shawn sits down with Alex Costa, the man who walked away from a career at Google and built the global brand Forte Series, to discuss the Shawnism: "Don't let someone ruin your career (or life).”

Shawn and Alex break down the real cost of surrounding yourself with the wrong people, how opinion overload can quietly derail your path, and the value of leaning into the dunes of life and business. The two also share their thoughts on why everyone doesn’t belong in every room of your life, and what they mean by, “having a vision, but always keeping it in pencil.”

Because the truth is, your career (and your life) isn’t defined overnight. It’s shaped slowly by who you listen to, who you trust, and who you keep around.

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