On this episode of Legacy Makers, Kevin and Eric dive into the power of rhythms, rites, and milestones in fatherhood. Drawing inspiration from David Salyers' Champion Tribes and cultural traditions like Bar Mitzvahs, they explore how to intentionally mark life's big (and small) moments—from firsts like losing a tooth or riding a bike, to transitions, coming-of-age experiences, achievements, and even hardships. The conversation unpacks the Peak-End Rule from the Heath Brothers, shares personal stories of one-on-one trips, monthly dates, bedtime rituals, and holiday traditions, and challenges dads to reject "good enough" parenting for a higher standard of legacy-building. Whether it's celebrating a kindergartner's success with ice cream or guiding teens through tough decisions, discover practical, low-cost ways to create lasting memories and teach resilience. Perfect for fathers seeking to amplify everyday moments and build a family legacy that endures—because what gets celebrated gets repeated. Tune in and get inspired to start your own traditions today!

Chapters

00:00 The Importance of Community for Dads
06:33 Creating Meaningful Moments and Milestones
11:49 Navigating Transitions and Coming of Age
17:27 Marking Achievements and Overcoming Hardships
22:08 Building Lasting Legacies Through Intentionality

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Feeling overwhelmed by the chaos in today’s world? This episode dives into how dads can lead with courage and clarity when tragedy strikes. From having tough, age-appropriate conversations with kids to modeling boldness and unity, we explore practical ways to engage rather than disconnect. Learn why staying out of the social media echo chamber matters, how to focus on your “three feet of influence,” and why your role—at home and in the community—truly makes a difference. If you’ve ever wondered how to drive positivity in heavy times, this conversation is for you.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction & Welcome
00:05 The Weight of Recent Events: Tragedy and Disconnection
02:18 Leaning In: Why Dads Must Engage During Tough Times
04:00 Understanding “Calling” and Our Unique Role
05:32 Starting at Home: Age-Appropriate Conversations with Kids
06:16 Preparing Kids for Reality: Boldness and Safety
10:09 Leading Conversations as Fathers
12:12 Grace and Truth: Balancing Conviction with Compassion
14:02 Modeling Consistency: Actions Matching Words
15:39 Teaching Boldness and Micro-Decisions
17:34 Heroes Wanted: Impact Within Your Sphere of Influence
19:37 Beyond the Home: Responding in Work and Community
21:07 Avoiding the Fringes: Social Media and Division
22:38 Building Bridges and Resisting Isolation
23:56 The Power of Conversation in Times of Adversity
25:14 Closing Thoughts: Stepping Up and Leaving a Legacy

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Ever feel like you’re drifting through fatherhood, marriage, and work—wondering if true connection is possible? This episode with Larry Hagner reveals how intentional living can break the cycle of overwhelm and transform your relationships. Hear practical strategies for building legendary marriages, connecting deeply with your kids, and finding purpose beyond the daily grind. Discover why small moments matter, how humility unlocks growth, and why every dad’s journey can spark a movement. Tune in for real stories, actionable tips, and inspiration to live your legacy—starting today.

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction & Welcome
00:52 Larry’s Journey: Fatherhood, Marriage, and The Dad Edge
02:18 Understanding “The Drift” in Life
04:47 Creating the Avatar: Lance’s Story
06:53 The Reality of Overwhelm and Disconnection
10:43 Defining Legendary Fatherhood
13:21 Kids Spell Love “T-I-M-E”
16:36 Practical Connection: Car Conversations & Notes
21:12 Loving Your Kids’ Mom Well
27:19 Integration vs. Balance in Life
30:41 When the Expert Feels Lost
35:24 Learning, Unlearning, and Relearning as a Parent
39:44 The Future of Intentional Fatherhood
43:54 The Wedding Toast Moment: Living Your Legacy
45:49 Resources & Closing Thoughts

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What if the secrets to better fatherhood were hiding in your business playbook? In this episode of Legacy Makers, Kevin and Eric unpack five powerful principles from Jesse Cole, founder of the Savannah Bananas, and explore how they apply to parenting. From eliminating friction in morning routines to experimenting with joy and empowering kids to take ownership, this is a heartfelt, practical guide for dads who want to lead with intention and build lasting legacies. Tune in for real stories, actionable insights, and a fresh take on what it means to be a present, purposeful dad.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Legacy Makers
00:52 Applying Business Principles to Fatherhood
03:14 The Five E's of Experience
10:11 Eliminating Friction in Parenting
13:54 The Importance of Entertainment
17:03 Engaging Deeply with Kids
19:25 Empowering Action in Parenting

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Dads, learn to feel your child's pain without fixing it all—channel empathy into compassionate guidance that builds resilience, problem-solving, and true confidence. Real stories from the trenches.

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Caught between crushing it at work and being present at home? In this episode of Legacy Makers, Eric and Kevin dive into the real tension dads face between hustle culture and family life. From Instagram algorithms to Nick Saban quotes, they explore how to manage seasons of hustle and rhythms of rest—without guilt. It’s not about choosing one over the other, but learning to live in the tension with agility, duality, and intention. If you’ve ever felt torn between ambition and connection, this conversation is for you.

Chapters

00:00 The Importance of Community for Dads
08:15 Navigating the Hustle and Home Balance
15:51 Finding Harmony in Tension
20:36 Living in the Tension Without Guilt

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What if the secret to leading a billion-dollar turnaround was the same as raising great kids? In this episode of Legacy Makers, Kevin Hochman—CEO of Brinker International—shares how intentionality, mentorship, and values-driven leadership have shaped both his professional success and personal life. From one-on-one trips with his kids to reigniting Chili’s culture, Kevin reveals practical wisdom for building legacy at home and at work. Whether you're a parent, a leader, or both, this conversation is packed with insights that will inspire you to lead with purpose.

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What if one small decision could unravel everything you’ve built as a dad? In this episode of Legacy Makers, we dive into the invisible force that shapes your children’s future—integrity. From workplace choices to personal vices, we explore how seemingly unrelated actions can either pave a clear path for your kids or leave them lost in the weeds. With honest stories, practical tips, and a powerful metaphor you won’t forget, this conversation challenges every father to lead with consistency, not just at home—but everywhere.

00:00 The Importance of Community for Dads
02:17 Navigating Leadership and Integrity
07:56 The Impact of External Choices on Fatherhood
14:31 Addictions and Their Effects on Parenting
20:00 Building Consistency and Integrity as a Dad
25:57 Creating a Legacy of Dad Privilege

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