Learning to Move Before It All Makes Sense(170)

Dr. Glenn and Phyllis Hill welcome back Chris Cruz—Managing Director at Harbor + Union and Young Adult Pastor at Bethel Church—for a powerful conversation on leadership, action, and emotional clarity. With refreshing vulnerability, Chris shares how the phrase “clarity is found in motion” transformed his approach to decision-making, leadership, and connection. Listeners will hear how fear often paralyzes us into waiting, but motion—taking a first step—can lead to surprising clarity. Tying this into the Connection Codes framework, Chris explains how emotional insight comes not from planning but from engaging—especially in conversation. This is a must-listen for anyone navigating fear, change, or relational stuckness and looking for practical tools to move forward with authenticity.

Links and Resources:

• Download the Core Emotion Wheel: ⁠⁠https://youtube.com/@connectioncodes?si=phORYBsGMOOrj9mA⁠⁠
• Find out how to become a Certified Coach:⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://connectioncodes.co/certified-coaching⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Find a coach:⁠ ⁠⁠https://connectioncodes.co/coaches#find-a-coach-menu⁠
• LinkedIn – Chris Cruz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisjosephcruz/
• Chris’s Instagram : @chriscruz
• The Practice of Being with Jesus: https://tinyurl.com/4zzddd89⁠

Chapters:

• 00:00:00 - A Warm Welcome + Why This Conversation Matters
• 00:00:38 - Meet Chris Cruz: Storyteller, Pastor, Creative Voice
• 00:00:55 - When Desire Isn’t Enough—Why Action Changes Everything
• 00:01:36 - Life Lately: Chris Reflects on the Journey
• 00:02:54 - “Clarity is Found in Motion”—The Quote That Sparked It All
• 00:09:52 - Sitting with Fear, Moving Anyway
• 00:14:19 - Processing in Real Time: What Happens When We Don’t Have it All Figured Out
• 00:22:34 - Why Imperfection Might Be the Key to Starting
• 00:23:09 - When Learning Becomes a Hiding Place—And How to Step Out
• 00:25:12 - What Therapy Taught Me About Growth and Patience
• 00:25:54 - Getting Honest About What’s Really Underneath: Fear, Shame, Guilt
• 00:33:29 - Motion Brings Clarity: Why We Can’t Stay Still
• 00:36:37 - Behind the Mic: Chris Shares His Podcast Journey
• 00:39:33 - A Quiet Nudge Forward: Encouragement to Move Gently