Learn to Love the Roller Coaster

Mickey Desai interviews Sherry Heyl about her book Learn to Love the Roller Coaster: Stories of Change, Resilience, and the Future to Come. They discuss how nonprofits can navigate rapid technological and social change by adopting a "creator mindset" rather than a "poverty mindset" or "survivor mindset." Sherry emphasizes that change is constant and accelerating (driven by AI, quantum computing, and CRISPR) but organizations can manage it by staying grounded in their values, making incremental changes collaboratively, and treating emerging tools like AI as interns rather than replacements. The conversation covers practical frameworks for organizational change, the emotional dimensions of transitions, and how to use AI thoughtfully without abandoning human creativity and connection.

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