Hosts: Ed Schaefer and Andy Siegmund

Episode: 14

Runtime: Approximately 1 hour, 3 minutes

Release Date: September 23, 2025

Website: leadershipexploredpod.com

Episode Description:

In this episode of Leadership Explored, Ed Schaefer and Andy Siegmund shift the spotlight from the stars to the real game-changers: the glue people. These under-recognized teammates don’t always get the credit, but their steady, behind-the-scenes contributions are often the difference between chaos and cohesion.

Drawing insights from sports (hello, Wayne Gretzky’s assists!) and workplace psychology, this episode explores:

* Why 10x results are rarely about heroics—and more about enabling others

* How glue people stabilize teams, reduce friction, and quietly make others better

* What happens when organizations overlook or burn out their most collaborative contributors

* How to spot, support, and design for glue behavior in your teams

* The difference between glue people and glue work—and why that distinction matters

Whether you're a team leader, individual contributor, or organizational architect, this episode will help you recognize the assists that make real leadership and performance possible.

🔍 Episode Highlights:

⏳ [00:00] – Intro: From 10x myths to team assists—why this conversation matters

⏳ [01:24] – The quiet MVPs: Who are glue people, and what makes them essential?

⏳ [03:33] – Research-backed insights: NBA, NHL, and why assists win games

⏳ [07:58] – Star-heavy teams underperform—collaboration beats individual brilliance

⏳ [09:53] – Beyond heroics: Team players who make others better

⏳ [13:26] – Traits of glue people: Steady, emotionally grounded, and unselfishly competent

⏳ [17:03] – Glue ≠ Martyrdom—why healthy boundaries matter

⏳ [21:11] – Visibility bias, attribution errors, and why we miss the real contributors

⏳ [29:19] – The cost of ignoring glue people: burnout, sluggishness, and cultural erosion

⏳ [34:30] – What breaks when a glue person leaves (or takes PTO)

⏳ [37:28] – Personal stories: Ed’s burnout, Andy’s connector role

⏳ [42:51] – How to find the glue: behaviors, archetypes, and network patterns

⏳ [46:32] – How to value glue work: talk about it, measure it, protect it

⏳ [50:52] – Spot bonuses, recognition cards, and peer kudos: what works (and what doesn’t)

⏳ [54:09] – From firefighting to architecture: designing teams for shared glue

⏳ [58:06] – Balancing action, thought, and connection in team design

⏳ [1:00:56] – Final thoughts, takeaways, and your leadership challenge for the week

💡 Weekly Challenge:

* Name an Assist: In your next team meeting, call out a contribution that helped others succeed. Make the invisible visible.

* Be the Glue (Just a Little): Add one small system or note that improves clarity or flow for others.

* Spot the Unseen: Quietly ask your team who helped them the most this week—and look for the unsung names that emerge.

📣 Join the Conversation:

* Who’s the glue person on your team?

* Have you been in that role before?

* How can leaders better reward, recognize, and protect these contributors?

We want to hear your thoughts, stories, and takeaways. Email us at leadershipexplored@gmail.com or connect with us on LinkedIn.

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Hosts: Ed Schaefer and Andy Siegmund

Episode: 13

Runtime: Approximately 52 minutes

Release Date: September 9, 2025

Website: leadershipexploredpod.com

Episode Description:

In this episode of Leadership Explored, Ed Schaefer and Andy Siegmund tackle the loaded and often misunderstood concept of the “10x” contributor — the supposed rock star performer who delivers 10 times the results of an average teammate.

They dive into where the 10x myth came from, why it persists in tech and business culture, and the risks of idolizing individual brilliance over collective success.

This is a practical and thought-provoking conversation for any leader who’s tired of chasing unicorns and ready to build teams that actually work.

Ed and Andy discuss:

* Why “10x” is often more myth than metric.

* The difference between outputs, outcomes, and true value.

* How chasing individual greatness can undermine team performance.

* Why sustainable success comes from building high-functioning environments—not finding heroes.

* How leaders can shift their focus to system design, team chemistry, and compounding progress over time.

This episode will help you rethink how you define performance, evaluate talent, and create conditions where your teams thrive together—not just compete alone.

Episode Highlights:

⏳ [00:45] – What is “10x” and where did this idea even come from?

⏳ [02:02] – Ed shares a real-life job interview with a self-proclaimed “10x developer” — and why that was a red flag.

⏳ [04:56] – Is “10x” a buzzword now? How it evolved from productivity metric to cultural myth.

⏳ [08:42] – Unicorns, rockstars, and ninjas: How the language around 10x creates false expectations and elitism.

⏳ [10:03] – Why we chase 10x: ego, aspiration, and the illusion of shortcuts.

⏳ [12:50] – Team dynamics matter: careerists vs. jobbers and why every team needs a blend.

⏳ [16:36] – The 10x manager trap: Burnout, blind spots, and bad systems hiding behind high expectations.

⏳ [18:28] – What we really miss when we chase output instead of building performance ecosystems.

⏳ [21:28] – A LinkedIn parable: One quiet engineer’s impact > 100 loud meetings.

⏳ [24:30] – Outputs vs. outcomes: Why business impact always beats activity.

⏳ [30:21] – How the value of performance shifts throughout your career.

⏳ [38:48] – The “glue teammate”: Quiet, often invisible, but essential to success.

⏳ [43:36] – 1.1x vs. 10x: The case for compounding improvement and consistent growth.

⏳ [46:04] – Don’t cut butter with a chainsaw: Match your hires to the problem you need to solve.

⏳ [50:25] – A practical tool: The Team Competency Matrix and how to build smarter teams.

⏳ [51:43] – Final thoughts: Let go of the hero fantasy—build systems that make everyone better.

🎯 This episode is for you if:

* You’re hiring or leading a team and wrestling with performance expectations.

* You’re tired of buzzwords and want substance over hype.

* You’ve ever worked with (or as) a quiet performer who made everything better behind the scenes.

* You want to build sustainable teams where excellence is a culture, not a label.

💡 Challenge for Listeners:

Take a closer look at how your team defines success. Are you measuring speed and visibility—or outcomes and real impact? Ask yourself: Am I chasing a 10x person, or building a 10x team?

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Hosts: Ed Schaefer and Andy Siegmund

Episode: 12

Runtime: Approximately 38 minutes

Release Date: August 26, 2025

Website: leadershipexploredpod.com

Episode Description:

In this episode of Leadership Explored, Ed and Andy tackle a silent but persistent leadership trap—the belief that only certain types of work really count. Whether it’s documentation, planning, reporting, or mentoring, these “invisible” parts of the job are often ignored or undervalued.

But here’s the truth: It’s all the work.

Ed and Andy dig into why leaders must embrace the full scope of their roles—not just the glamorous or visible tasks—and how dismissing the less celebrated pieces of the puzzle leads to broken systems, burnout, and stalled careers. They explore mindset shifts, team dynamics, and the subtle ways leadership models either strengthen or erode trust.

From metaphors and practical tips to personal stories and reflection prompts, this episode is a must-listen for any leader who wants to build a high-trust, high-functioning team.

Episode Highlights:

⏳ [00:52] – Why “real work” often gets equated with visible output—and why that’s a dangerous myth.

⏳ [02:36] – The iceberg effect: How we glorify what’s visible and neglect what enables it.

⏳ [05:59] – When leaders skip the “boring” stuff, teams end up paying the price.

⏳ [07:54] – Short-term gains vs. long-term erosion: The delayed cost of neglecting planning and documentation.

⏳ [11:37] – Reporting as a leadership development tool—not just a checkbox.

⏳ [14:40] – Reframing planning, reflecting, and reporting as multipliers, not chores

⏳ [18:04] – Connecting unseen work to purpose, team success, and strategy.

⏳ [22:14] – The music metaphor: Practice, preparation, and performance in leadership.

⏳ [25:20] – Resistance as data: When tasks feel pointless, ask why.

⏳ [29:31] – The power of consistency and cohesion when leaders show up for all the work.]

⏳ [32:16] – Action steps for shifting mindset and honoring behind-the-scenes work.

⏳ [37:51] – Professionalism means doing the work—even when no one’s watching.

Try This:

* Pick one task you usually rush or resent. Slow down. Treat it as a craft.

* Recognize and celebrate someone else’s behind-the-scenes contribution.

* Ask yourself: “What work do I devalue that actually deserves more respect?”

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Hosts: Ed Schaefer and Andy Siegmund

Episode: 11

Runtime: Approximately 41 minutes

Release Date: August 12, 2025

Website: leadershipexploredpod.com

Episode Description:

In this episode of Leadership Explored, Ed Schaefer and Andy Siegmund dive into one of the most misunderstood aspects of organizational life: bureaucracy.

Is it a blocker—or a builder?A burden—or a blueprint?

While bureaucracy often gets blamed for inefficiency, slowdowns, and red tape, Ed and Andy argue that the real issue isn’t bureaucracy itself—it's how leaders use it.

They explore:

* Why bureaucracy gets a bad rap—and what it’s actually designed to do.

* How structure can act as an external brain for your organization.

* When process is a support system—and when it becomes dead weight.

* What happens when leaders avoid hard conversations and hide behind policy.

* Simple strategies for designing intentional, flexible, and useful systems.

Whether you’re leading a scrappy team or scaling a complex org, this episode will challenge how you think about systems, structure, and leadership responsibility.

Episode Highlights:

⏳ [00:00] – Introduction: Why everyone loves to hate bureaucracy⏳ [03:05] – Max Weber’s classic definition: What is a bureaucracy anyway?⏳ [05:44] – The myth of freedom through no process—and why it falls apart at scale⏳ [08:52] – Bureaucracy as an “external brain”: Reducing cognitive load for teams⏳ [12:36] – The danger of random decisions vs. structured coordination⏳ [15:18] – Bureaucratic entropy: Why systems collapse or calcify over time⏳ [17:40] – The backpack metaphor: How one-time fixes become long-term burdens⏳ [26:51] – Process as crutch: When leaders use rules to avoid real leadership⏳ [30:19] – Healthy systems slow us down just enough to prevent chaos⏳ [38:21] – Ed & Andy’s advice: How new leaders can design “just enough” process⏳ [41:01] – Final thoughts: Bureaucracy isn’t about control—it’s about clarity

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Hosts: Ed Schaefer and Andy Siegmund

Episode: 10

Runtime: Approximately 38 minutes

Release Date: July 29, 2025

Website: leadershipexploredpod.com

Episode Description:

Language is one of the most overlooked tools in a leader’s toolkit—but it might be the most powerful. In Episode 10 of Leadership Explored, Ed Schaefer and Andy Siegmund break down how everyday language choices shape culture, trust, alignment, and ultimately the experience of leadership.

From corporate jargon and misused metaphors to subtle word choices like "just" or "we," the way leaders speak has a ripple effect. Ed and Andy explore how language isn’t just a means of communication—it’s a mirror of intent, a shaper of culture, and a signal of what leadership truly values.

In this episode, they discuss:

* Why vague corporate speak erodes trust—and how to be more direct without being harsh.

* The power of consistent “ubiquitous language” and how it aligns teams.

* How metaphors frame the way people think about work (and why war metaphors might be doing more harm than good).

* Why pronouns like we, you, and I reveal more than we realize.

* The alignment gap between what leaders say and what they actually do—and how that disconnect breaks trust.

Whether you're leading a small team or shaping a whole company, this episode is a must-listen for any leader ready to wield language with more clarity, care, and cultural awareness.

Episode Highlights:

⏳ [00:47] – Andy shares how Amazon’s use of leadership principles created a shared leadership language.

⏳ [02:23] – Ed calls out the hidden damage of corporate jargon and euphemisms like “shifting priorities.”

⏳ [06:42] – The echo effect: How leader language seeps into meetings, Slack threads, and culture.

⏳ [08:50] – Ubiquitous language in Agile and why resetting shared definitions is essential.

⏳ [14:29] – The pronoun test: What “I”, “we”, and “you” really say about your leadership mindset.

⏳ [17:46] – Hockey culture as a leadership lesson: Take blame, give credit.

⏳ [21:28] – Why metaphors matter—and how war vs. gardening metaphors influence team behavior.

⏳ [26:27] – Golf metaphors and arugula: How out-of-touch language creates distance.

⏳ [29:03] – Words vs. actions: How misalignment between message and behavior erodes trust.

⏳ [33:36] – Habitual phrases that sabotage culture—and how to replace them with intention.

⏳ [39:46] – The power of removing “weasel words” to communicate with clarity and authority.

⏳ [42:00] – Final takeaway: Leadership language isn’t fluff—it’s the architecture of your culture.

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Hosts: Ed Schaefer and Andy Siegmund

Episode: 09

Runtime: Approximately 45 minutes

Release Date: July 15, 2025

Website: leadershipexploredpod.com

Episode Description:

In this episode of Leadership Explored, Ed Schaefer and Andy Siegmund unpack the illusion of certainty and the pressure leaders face to perform confidence even when the path forward is murky.

From overly optimistic project forecasts to rigid delivery commitments, modern leadership often rewards bold promises—but at what cost? Ed and Andy explore how performative certainty can erode trust, burn out teams, and lead to fragile decision-making. Instead, they offer a better path: confidence grounded in clarity, adaptability, and evidence.

Together, they dive into:

* Why our desire for certainty is natural—but dangerous.

* How confidence differs from certainty—and why that distinction matters.

* The role of probabilistic forecasting and thinking in bets.

* Why great leaders name their uncertainty out loud—and build credibility in the process.

This episode is full of hard-won lessons, candid observations, and practical approaches that help leaders shift from rigid promises to resilient strategy.

Episode Highlights:

⏳ [00:45] – Why leaders crave certainty—and how it leads to binary thinking.

⏳ [03:10] – The illusion of certainty in tools like Gantt charts and sanitized status updates.

⏳ [06:45] – Performative certainty: How it hurts teams and decision-making.

⏳ [10:40] – Confidence vs. certainty: Why credibility comes from clarity, not bravado.

⏳ [15:00] – Monte Carlo simulations and forecasting as leadership tools.

⏳ [19:30] – Strategic negotiation and why “good enough” often wins.

⏳ [24:00] – The pressure from executive timelines and how it distorts planning.

⏳ [28:45] – Why we romanticize bold predictions—and forget the failures.

⏳ [33:10] – What knowledge work can’t learn from sports metaphors.

⏳ [37:25] – Leading with probabilities, not promises.

⏳ [41:50] – Final takeaways: Confidence, clarity, and adaptability beat fake certainty every time.

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Feedback Part 2 – Receiving Feedback: How to Grow from Criticism

Hosts: Ed Schaefer and Andy Siegmund

Episode: 08

Runtime: Approximately 35 minutes

Release Date: July 1, 2025

Website: leadershipexploredpod.com

🎙 Episode Description:

In part two of our series on feedback, Ed Schaefer and Andy Siegmund flip the script—from giving feedback to receiving it.

Let’s be honest: even when feedback is delivered well, it can still sting. It’s easy to get defensive, dismiss it, or feel personally attacked. But how we receive feedback is just as important—maybe even more important—than how it’s given.

In this episode, Ed and Andy break down how to build a growth mindset around feedback, manage emotional reactions, and use even imperfect feedback to fuel personal and professional development.

They explore:

* Why receiving feedback well is harder than it sounds

* How to shift from defensiveness to curiosity

* Different types of feedback (appreciation, coaching, evaluation) and how to handle them

* Common emotional triggers and how to manage them

* A practical, step-by-step strategy for receiving feedback in the moment

* Tips for building your "feedback muscle" over time

If you want to grow faster, build better relationships, and become a stronger leader, mastering the art of receiving feedback is a critical skill—and it’s something you can get better at.

👉 Missed Part 1 about Giving Feedback? Be sure to check out Episode 07 for the full conversation.

🔍 Episode Highlights:

⏳ [01:07] – Instant reactions to hearing “Can I give you some feedback?”

⏳ [02:28] – Shifting your mindset: feedback as opportunity, not attack

⏳ [03:21] – The “10% truth” method and adopting curiosity over defensiveness

⏳ [04:52] – Managing emotional reactions in the moment

⏳ [05:12] – Understanding types of feedback: appreciation, coaching, evaluation

⏳ [07:44] – Common emotional triggers: truth, relationship, and identity triggers

⏳ [10:12] – Pausing before responding—and why it’s so powerful

⏳ [12:25] – Practical steps to receive feedback: space, listen, acknowledge, clarify, reflect

⏳ [15:42] – Using sensations (anxiety, stress) as signals to pivot into feedback mode

⏳ [20:55] – How to decide what feedback to act on

⏳ [21:07] – Building your feedback muscle: asking, reflecting, practicing

⏳ [26:09] – Following up after feedback to strengthen trust and learning

⏳ [28:14] – Why adopting a beginner’s mindset makes you a better feedback receiver

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Feedback Part 1 - Giving Feedback: How to Do It Right

Hosts: Ed Schaefer and Andy Siegmund Episode: 07 Runtime: Approximately 40 minutes Release Date: June 17, 2025 Website: leadershipexploredpod.com

🎙 Episode Description:

In part one of this two-part series on feedback, Ed Schaefer and Andy Siegmund dive deep into what it takes to give effective feedback—the kind that’s actually useful, timely, and leads to growth.

Too often, feedback is vague, late, or sugarcoated to the point of being meaningless. But when done right, it becomes one of the most powerful leadership tools available. In this episode, Ed and Andy explore how to deliver feedback that builds trust, drives performance, and contributes to a healthy workplace culture.

They break down:

* What makes feedback effective (and what doesn’t)

* The difference between commentary, judgment, and real feedback

* Why timing and specificity matter more than perfection

* Actionable frameworks for giving feedback clearly and respectfully

* The importance of trust, consistency, and setting the tone as a leader

Whether you're a new manager or a seasoned executive, this episode offers concrete strategies and candid stories to help you navigate one of the trickiest parts of leadership with confidence.

👉 Stay tuned for Part 2, where they’ll tackle the equally important (and often overlooked) skill of receiving feedback well.

🔍 Episode Highlights:

⏳ [01:14] – What makes feedback actually helpful: timely, actionable, and focused on improvement ⏳ [03:02] – The importance of forward-looking feedback vs. backward-facing judgment ⏳ [05:25] – Real-life examples of feedback that came too late to be useful ⏳ [07:44] – Why vague or softened feedback undermines growth ⏳ [12:47] – Coaching vs. teaching: finding the balance in giving guidance ⏳ [18:05] – A 4-step best practice for giving effective feedback ⏳ [23:12] – Why observations matter more than assumptions ⏳ [24:59] – Connecting behavior to impact: why context matters ⏳ [29:23] – Building a feedback culture starts with trust ⏳ [33:15] – The power of positive feedback—and why it's essential for trust and motivation ⏳ [37:09] – Avoiding the “compliment sandwich” and giving honest, direct feedback ⏳ [39:14] – What to do when someone isn’t ready to receive feedback ⏳ [40:07] – Final thoughts: giving feedback is a leadership responsibility

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