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https://www.launchkingdomos.com

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In this powerful episode of the KIngdom ROI Podcast, we continue to expose the “Great Wealth Heist”, along with our special guest, Kavon Saber, specifically in the M&A world. We also discuss how faith-driven founders and family-first entrepreneurs can protect their legacy.

If your net worth is tied up in your business…

If you're planning an exit in the next 3–5 years…

Or if you care more about your family than a headline-making deal…

👉 This conversation is for YOU.

🎯 In This Video, You'll Discover:

Why 94% of business owners regret selling their company

The most expensive mistake entrepreneurs make after scaling

How to avoid the M&A industry's “legal theft” disguised as optimization

The #1 thing married founders overlook before a liquidity event

A blueprint for Kingdom-aligned exit planning

Why your business is not your legacy — your family is

How to future-proof your values for generations through better stewardship

The 4 silent threats that destroy wealth transfers after the sale

Why involving your spouse and kids isn’t optional — it's essential

A Kingdom mindset shift that makes exits profitable and peaceful

🕒 Timestamps

0:00 - M&A is broken

0:30 - Divorce vs. Selling a Business

1:00 - Meet Kavon Saber

2:00 - How We Met

2:40 - 94% Regret Selling

3:30 - Kingdom Over Exit

4:10 - Called to Business, Not Missions

6:10 - First Big Exit Regret

7:40 - Employees Got Hurt

8:10 - The M&A Game Is Rigged

9:10 - Buyers Always Win

10:00 - Turning the Industry Upside Down

11:00 - The Great Wealth Heist

12:20 - Selling Is Russian Roulette

13:30 - Kingdom M&A Strategy

15:00 - Why Exits Fail

16:00 - Bad Assumptions

17:10 - Keep It Confidential

18:40 - Buyers Are Pros

19:30 - Advisors Aren’t On Your Side

21:00 - God Hates Injustice

22:00 - Start with the Bible

23:20 - Relationships First

24:30 - Transform Your Mind

25:10 - Jesus Owns Your Business

26:10 - The Kingdom Reclaims Work

27:10 - Legacy Is Bigger Than You

28:30 - Why Cities Rejoice

29:10 - You’re Just a Steward

30:00 - How to Vet Buyers

31:00 - Protect Your People

32:10 - Values Over Cash

33:10 - What Legacy Really Means

34:00 - Deal Terms That Bless

35:00 - Trusts That Unite

36:00 - Control the Impact

37:20 - IRS or God?

38:00 - You’re Not Crazy

39:00 - When Business Becomes the Mistress

40:00 - Kavon’s Wake-Up Call

41:00 - Divorce After the Deal

42:00 - Work Is Worship

43:10 - Overworked and Violent

44:00 - Time to Step Away

45:00 - Kavon’s Tools + Resources

46:20 - Final Thoughts

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Resources and Next Steps:

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🎯 Find Out More About the Kingdom Operating System:

https://www.launchkingdomos.com

✅ Take The Great Wealth Assessment! →https://linktr.ee/kingdomroi

We are living in the largest wealth transfer in human history — over $140 trillion in the U.S. alone. Potentially $300 trillion globally!

But here’s the painful truth:

90% of families will fail to preserve their wealth across three generations.

Why?

Because good optimization isn’t good enough anymore.

Taxes, legal strategies, and investments can’t fix what’s broken.

💥 This isn’t just about money. It’s about values, relationships, and intentional legacy planning.

In this episode of the KROI Podcast, Christopher Callahan and Eric L. Dunavant expose what most financial advisors won’t tell you — and how the top 10% of families are breaking the cycle and building 100+ years of impact.

🎯 In This Video, You’ll Discover:

✔️ Why traditional estate planning is setting families up to fail

✔️ The shocking stats behind generational wealth loss (70% fail in Gen 2, 90% in Gen 3)

✔️ The truth about "lifetime inheritance" vs. post-death bequests

✔️ How unconscious manipulation is embedded in the advisory industry

✔️ The Kingdom ROI formula that redefines legacy: Relationships × Optimization = Intention

✔️ The critical conversations your advisor isn't having — and how to start them now

✔️ How to raise financially wise children and avoid entitlement

✔️ Why your legacy must be passed before you're gone

✔️ Real examples of families creating impact for generations — and how you can join them

🕒 Timestamps

0:00 - What Do You Want for Your Kids?

0:40 - The $140 Trillion Transfer

1:50 - Are You Being Robbed?

2:40 - Why Families Fail at Wealth

4:10 - Advisors Are Missing This

5:30 - Lifetime vs. After-Death Inheritance

7:00 - Inheritance Done Wrong

9:00 - Legacy That Actually Matters

10:30 - Speak Into Their Future

12:00 - Is Your Advisor Biased?

13:40 - Building 100-Year Impact

15:00 - What the Top 10% Do

16:30 - Prodigal Son & Entitlement

17:40 - Let Them Fail

19:00 - Real Family Conversations

20:10 - Failing Kids in Their 20s

21:00 - What Do You Really Want?

23:30 - Gen Z Giving Story

25:00 - Family Values in Action

26:20 - Inheritance Isn’t Fair

27:40 - God's Wealth Rules

28:30 - Make Your Business Last

29:20 - Free Book: Bistro with Bob

Tags to Help Others Find This Video:

generational wealth planning, lifetime inheritance, relational wealth, estate planning for high net worth families, legacy family planning, wealth transfer strategy, how to build generational wealth, values-based estate planning, inheritance failure rate, Kingdom ROI, wealth preservation strategies, Christian financial planning, how to talk to kids about money, multi-generational family legacy, legacy vs inheritance

Hashtags:

#GenerationalWealth #EstatePlanning #LegacyMatters #WealthTransfer #KingdomROI #FamilyLegacy #WealthHeist #HighNetWorth #IntentionalLiving #ValuesDrivenWealth

Watch Part 1 here: https://youtu.be/Q42mA458ARI

Resources and Next Steps:

📖 Learn more about Kingdom ROI → https://kingdomroi.org/

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https://www.launchkingdomos.com

✅ Take The Great Wealth Assessment! →https://linktr.ee/kingdomroi

What happens when the American Dream starts feeling like a nightmare?

In this raw and powerful episode of the Kingdom ROI Podcast, Christopher Callahan continues the conversation with Eric L. Dunavant and Angel Dunavant open up about the early years of their marriage — five moves in two years, unexpected tax debt, career pivots, spiritual struggles, and the pursuit of wealth that almost cost everything.

If you're a high-achieving couple balancing kids, money, business growth — or you're nearing retirement and thinking about the legacy you'll leave behind — this story will hit home.

In this episode, you'll discover:

What really happens when you move 5 times in 2 years (hint: your taxes and marriage suffer)

The spiritual cost of chasing wealth and identity through money

Why Eric walked away from a higher salary and company car (and what happened next)

How one unexpected book completely redirected their financial future

When God shows up in the budget (even when you're $200 short every month)

What legacy means when you're building something that lasts beyond wealth

🕒 Timestamps

0:00 - The Lettuce Story

1:20 - The Wrong Name Call

2:30 - Ice Cream Pre-Date

3:40 - Oops, Marriage Talk

4:10 - Baggage & Backgrounds

5:00 - Dreaming of Riches

6:40 - Redefining Success

7:50 - Money Tensions Begin

8:10 - First Jobs & Big Moves

9:30 - Moving Madness

10:30 - Life Timeline Fast-Track

11:40 - LA Culture Shock

12:30 - People Are People

13:20 - Marriage Under Pressure

14:00 - $7K Tax Bomb

15:20 - Faith Gets Tested

16:40 - Thank You, God

17:20 - Identity Crisis

18:20 - Finance Calling

20:10 - Schwab Breakthrough

21:30 - Sacrifice Season

23:00 - Big Pay Cut

24:40 - Night Shifts & Grit

25:30 - Beating the Odds

26:40 - Business Dreams

27:40 - Money as a God

28:30 - Y2K Chaos

30:00 - Faith & Frustration

31:30 - Healing Begins

33:00 - $200 Short

34:00 - God’s Take on Money

35:00 - Letting Go

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faith and finances, Christian financial planning, legacy wealth planning, biblical money principles, married and broke, early marriage money mistakes, financial testimony, debt story Christian couple, spiritual identity and money, money stress marriage, Christian couple story, moving too often, God and money, leaving corporate career, faith-based financial journey

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#FaithAndMoney #ChristianFinance #LegacyPlanning #MoneyTestimony #MarriageAndMoney #BiblicalFinance #FinancialFreedom #GodProvides #MoneyAsAnIdol #DebtToLegacy #ChristianCouple

Take The Great Wealth Heist Assessment Today!https://linktr.ee/kingdomroiIn this episode of the Kingdom ROI Podcast, Eric Dunavant unpacks the Kingdom ROI Method—a proven framework for protecting your family’s legacy for 100+ years of abundance and impact.The truth? Less than 10% of families succeed in preserving their wealth across generations. Why? Because most get distracted by financial optimization alone, neglecting the deeper foundations of relationships and intention.In this episode, Eric shares powerful stories, including lessons from his grandmother’s legacy, his own family practices, and how business owners can avoid falling victim to the Great Wealth Heist—the silent erosion of generational wealth.⏱️ Timestamps00:00 – The $140 Trillion Wealth Transfer & the Great Wealth Heist02:00 – What is the Kingdom ROI Method? (Relationships × Optimization = Intention)05:00 – Can any family build 100+ years of abundance—or just the wealthy?07:00 – Legacy lessons from Eric’s grandmother & grandfather09:00 – Why focusing only on optimization leads to scarcity & fear12:00 – The hidden cost of neglecting relationships14:00 – Stephen Covey’s “Begin With the End in Mind” & biblical principles16:00 – How the world distracts you with optimization while robbing your legacy18:00 – Business ownership, family, and applying the ROI formula20:00 – Why optimization must follow relationships & intention22:00 – Kingdom ROI’s “Sunrise” & “Quest” experiences for families & teams24:00 – How the Great Wealth Heist Assessment exposes relational gaps26:00 – Practical family practices: Weekly intentional calls with Eric’s kids29:00 – Why this is a true heist: You don’t see it happening until it’s too late30:00 – Final call: Take the assessment & guard your 100+ year legacy

Take The Great Wealth Heist Assessment Today!

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In this heartfelt episode of the Kingdom ROI Podcast, Eric and Angel Dunavant open up about their personal stories of faith, family, loss, and legacy. From the challenges of empty nesting to the deep influence of Eric’s grandmother, Alice, they reveal how God used both chaos and stability to shape their journey. This is the beginning of a powerful multi-episode series exploring their testimony, family history, and the pursuit of 100+ years of abundance and impact.

Timestamps:

00:00 – Introduction with Christopher Callahan

01:00 – Launching kids to college & entering the empty nester season

02:00 – Why Eric & Angel are sharing their story in depth

03:00 – Eric’s early life in West Texas & small-town upbringing

04:00 – Family challenges: illness, separation, and loss of his mother

05:00 – Bankruptcy, moving homes, and the chaos of high school years

06:00 – The anchor of faith through Eric’s grandmother, Alice

08:00 – Modeling prayer, Scripture, and stability through her example

10:00 – Stories of perseverance: Alice’s faith through loss

12:00 – Legacy stories: Alice’s resilience and creativity at Christmas

14:00 – Redefining legacy: more than money, it’s about impact

16:00 – Angel’s “boring” but stable testimony vs. Eric’s chaos

18:00 – How stability and chaos met when Eric and Angel’s paths crossed

20:00 – Eric’s college years: searching for success and significance

23:00 – The dinner where Eric and Angel first met

25:00 – Eric’s misplaced faith and emotional volatility in college

28:00 – Reflections on testimony, gumbo, and the ingredients of legacy

29:00 – Closing thoughts & invitation to take the Great Wealth Heist Assessment

Take The Great Wealth Heist Assessment Today!

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In this episode of the Kingdom ROI Podcast, Christopher Callahan sits down with Brett Swarts, founder of Capital Gains Tax Solutions and host of the Capital Gains Tax Solutions Podcast. Brett shares his powerful personal story and how it shaped his mission to help families steward wealth in a way that protects relationships, enhances legacy, and maximizes impact.

If you're a business owner or real estate investor considering an exit, this conversation could save your wealth—and your family—from the traps of poor planning and short-sighted strategies.

👉 Learn how to avoid the 70% failure rate in wealth transfer

👉 Discover the Deferred Sales Trust strategy (the “Netflix” of wealth exits)

👉 Shift from fear and scarcity to abundance, peace, and impact

🛠 Tools discussed: Deferred Sales Trust, 1031 exchanges, true passive income

🎯 Ideal for: Business owners, real estate investors, dentists, Bitcoin holders, families with over $1M in gains

📘 Grab Brett’s book: Building a Capital Gains Tax Exit Plan

📞 Book a call: https://www.capitalgainstaxsolutions.com

🔗 Learn more: https://www.brettswarts.com

📍 Timestamps

00:00 – Intro to Brett Swarts and Capital Gains Tax Solutions

01:05 – Brett’s family background, faith, and journey into real estate

03:00 – How his parents’ divorce and wealth collapse shaped his mission

05:30 – The “Steve” story: Losing $50M and a marriage due to poor exit planning

07:00 – Why 1031 exchanges can trap families in financial stress

08:10 – How Brett helps families align exit strategies with their relationships and legacy

09:00 – Warren and Catherine’s story: Trading real estate headaches for time with twin daughters

10:45 – What is “truly passive income” and why it matters

12:00 – 1031 vs. Deferred Sales Trust: Blockbuster vs. Netflix analogy

15:00 – Case study: $13M car wash sale + strategic Bitcoin investment

17:00 – Who qualifies: Ideal client profile (business owners, real estate, Bitcoin)

19:30 – Brett’s personal story: Taking his family on a 1,000-day, 100-location legacy journey

21:00 – Uganda, clean water, and living out generosity with your kids

22:00 – The $84–$100 trillion opportunity in the great wealth transfer

24:10 – Christians must steward wealth actively—not store it away passively

26:00 – Stewardship over Ownership: Shifting your mindset for impact

28:00 – From fear, scarcity, and protection to abundance, peace, and impact

29:00 – Biggest mindset shift: Understand your “tax flow,” not just cash flow

31:00 – Brett’s 3D view: Tax flow, cash flow, debt flow

34:00 – The cost of inaction and the ditches on both sides of wisdom

35:00 – Brett’s book + how to schedule a strategy call

36:30 – Final encouragement: Steward your story, steward your wealth, and take action

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Take The Great Wealth Heist Assessment Today!https://linktr.ee/kingdomroiWhat if legacy wasn’t what you leave behind—but what you set in motion?In this powerful episode of the Kingdom ROI Podcast, Chris sits down with Bill High, nationally recognized legacy consultant, author, and founder of LegacyStone.com. Together, they unpack how your family, your failures, and your faith all converge to shape a generational calling—not just an inheritance.From the pain of fatherlessness to building billion-dollar impact through biblical family governance, Bill’s story is raw, redemptive, and deeply practical. He also shares highlights from his new book The Legacy Life (co-authored with Hobby Lobby founder David Green), and why your family culture may be the most overlooked asset on your balance sheet.This is more than just legacy planning—it’s a reformation of how Kingdom families show up across generations.⏱️ Timestamps & Chapters00:00 – Intro: Welcome Bill High to the Kingdom ROI Podcast02:03 – Meet Bill: From Ozark poverty to legacy strategist05:10 – What is LegacyStone.com and its mission?08:42 – Law to Legacy: The deeper calling behind the consulting13:03 – Healing through Journaling: The sacred processing of pain17:45 – Legacy vs Inheritance: Why your impact is what you set in motion22:09 – Thinking Generationally: What the Bible actually models26:38 – Where the Church Misses It: From marriage-centric to family mission32:15 – Governance for Families: Vision, values, and generational thinking36:40 – The Power of Storytelling: The 10 stories your kids must know42:20 – Feeling Behind? One-degree change and where to start47:50 – The Legacy Life Book: The backstory with David Green52:33 – Praying for the Family of God: Bill High’s final challenge56:01 – Closing: Resources to start building legacy today📘 PRE-ORDER THE BOOKThe Legacy Life: How to Build Generations of Influence and ImpactBy Bill High & David Green (Releases October 14, 2025)👉 [Search for “The Legacy Life” on Amazon or your favorite retailer]🎥 EXPLORE LEGACYSTONE.COMOn-demand family discipleship courses, small group materials, and live workshops.👉 https://legacystone.com🌐 Visit Bill’s Site👉 https://billhigh.com🌱 Explore Kingdom ROI & More Family Resources👉 linktr.ee/kingdomroi🔥 BIG IDEAS FROM THIS EPISODELegacy is not about wealth transfer—it’s about spiritual motion.Independence is a cultural idol; interdependence is Kingdom design.The church must go beyond marriage curriculum to equip family teams.You’re not behind—God only needs one degree of change.Storytelling is how culture is preserved and transferred across generations.🛎️ Subscribe for MoreIf this episode stirred something in you, don’t just let it fade.👉 Hit that bell, share this with a fellow family builder, and start your legacy journey today.

Take the Great Wealth Heist Assessment, and check out our other resources:https://linktr.ee/kingdomroi🔐 Discover how unconscious manipulation in financial systems is robbing families of their legacy. In this episode, Eric and Chris expose the ROI lie, reveal the pitfalls of unchecked optimization, and introduce the critical need for advocacy in wealth planning. If you’re a business owner or legacy-minded family, this episode will change how you think about wealth forever.👇 TIMESTAMPS:00:00 – Why 70% of businesses fail after one generation00:38 – “Postponing joy”: The hidden cost of chasing ROI01:15 – Why Eric re-centered the Kingdom ROI team around vision03:00 – When your team doesn’t know your “why” — leadership wake-up call04:15 – Love as the foundation of advocacy05:55 – Vision leaks: the John Maxwell principle06:48 – The ROI Lie: Why more money won’t give you peace08:10 – Why we give away our best ideas09:45 – Scarcity mindset sneaks in — even with more money11:10 – God’s economy vs fear-based planning12:30 – Orphan vs Son: how you think impacts how you live13:30 – What the Great Wealth Heist really looks like14:15 – The industry’s bias toward “solutions” and transactions15:10 – Why fear-based selling dominates the financial world16:15 – The problem with “checking the box” on planning17:30 – The stats don’t lie: 90% of wealth fails by the third generation18:45 – What no one tells you about “great” legal strategies20:00 – Real story: How good planning can still ruin your kids22:10 – Optimization without intention = future regret23:00 – The hidden cost of poor advocacy24:00 – Reevaluate what matters: clarity before optimization25:15 – Why your attorney or CPA might not be your advocate26:30 – How advocacy changes your financial outcomes27:10 – Better ROI from better intention — real stories28:30 – Dynamic plans: realigning as life and relationships evolve29:20 – Advocacy helps creators keep creating30:30 – “Return on Intention” leads to more than just profit31:00 – We’re all building puzzles… without the cover32:20 – The world is optimizing without any long-term vision33:00 – The high cost of not having an advocate34:20 – What lifetime inheritance really means35:00 – Free knowledge… but will you take action?📣 TAKE ACTIONDon’t just check boxes. Start building your 100-year legacy with intention.✅ Subscribe✅ Share this episode🎧 Listen on Apple | Spotify | YouTube https://linktr.ee/kingdomroi#KingdomROI #WealthHeist #ReturnOnIntention #GenerationalWealth #FaithBasedFinance #BusinessLegacy #AbundanceMindset #FamilyGovernance