In this episode, hosts Jeff and Jamie dig into the messy, magical world of brunch with special guest Chef Chris Rogienski of Leluia Hall. Together, they explore why brunch often gets a bad rap among chefs — and whether the critics have a point. Chef Chris pulls back the curtain on the real challenges of opening for brunch service at Leluia Hall, from staffing headaches to keeping the menu both profitable and creative.

The conversation also gets cracking over farm-fresh vs. regular eggs — does the difference really show up on the plate? And finally, they tackle the big question: can brunch actually make money, or is it just a labor of love?

Pull up a chair (and maybe a mimosa) for a candid, flavorful look at the sweet, sour, and sunny side of brunch.

Jeff and Jamie share inside scoop on their new TV series, Fork & Hammer. The journey has been a whirlwind—equal parts thrilling and downright surreal. The premiere was a night to remember: pure celebration, packed with laughter, cheers, and the incredible energy of friends, family, and fans. Get takeaways from filming and insights behind episodes 1 and 2—both now available for streaming on pbs.org!

This week on the podcast, Jeff and Jamie chat with Jesse Ledbetter from FreshList, a Charlotte-based company that aggregates produce from over 200 local and regional farms. Sitting right between two notoriously low-margin worlds—restaurants and farmers—Jesse shares how he’s built a business that supports both sides. They dive into the challenges of seasonality, the realities of sourcing locally, and how FreshList keeps it all working in a complex and ever-changing food system