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  • Goodwin Recap
    May 7 2025

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    22 m
  • 50. When Fundraising Isn’t One-Size-Fits-All: Neurodiversity and Sustainable Ministry with Jenilee Goodwin
    Apr 30 2025

    Fundraising can be exhausting—but what if it’s more than just a tough season? What if the way your brain works actually impacts how you navigate support raising? In this episode, we sit down with certified neurodiverse coach and veteran cross-cultural worker Jenilee Goodwin to talk about how conditions like ADHD, autism, and sensory processing differences shape the fundraising experience.

    From communication overload to executive function challenges to unexpected strengths, Jenilee helps us see how neurodivergent individuals can thrive in ministry—with the right support. Whether you’re neurodivergent yourself, support someone who is, or are shaping organizational policies, this conversation is packed with grace, insight, and practical ideas for a more inclusive approach to support-based ministry.


    🔑 Key Takeaways

    • We explore how ADHD, autism, and other brain-based differences can impact the entire fundraising process—from social cues to email overwhelm.
    • We learn that burnout is common when individuals feel like they’re “failing,” but coaching and reframing can unlock their strengths.
    • We’re reminded that fewer donors might actually be a better fit for neurodivergent workers—and it’s okay to do things differently.
    • We challenge the archetype of a missionary and celebrate creative, customized paths to the field.
    • We discover that good support starts with awareness, acceptance, and a willingness to jostle traditional models.

    🔗 Resources

    • Jenilee’s site: jenileerachel.com
    • Global Trellis Neurodiversity Week (for orgs/team leaders)

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    44 m
  • 49. Sales ≠ Sleazy: Rethinking the S-Word with Bernie Anderson
    Apr 23 2025

    In this episode of It’s Not About the Money, we’re joined by Bernie Anderson—missions leader, podcast host, business consultant, and certified Growability coach. Bernie helps us reframe our ideas around sales and fundraising, showing how sales, when done with integrity and generosity, can become a transformative experience for both the giver and the receiver.

    We talk about why fundraising isn’t a transaction but a transformation, why great fundraisers are great listeners, and how donor alignment is better than manipulation. Bernie shares wisdom on identifying donor personalities, avoiding burnout through authenticity, and how storytelling—done honestly—can drive partnership fruit.

    If you've ever felt awkward "making the ask" or have been burned by manipulative sales tactics, this episode will feel like a breath of fresh air. Bernie reminds us that fundraising is discipleship, that rejection isn’t failure, and that there’s no such thing as “sacred vs. secular” when you're doing Kingdom work.

    📚 Books + Articles

    1. To Sell Is Human by Daniel H. Pink
      – A modern, research-driven take on how everyone is in sales, whether they realize it or not.
    2. The Spirituality of Fundraising by Henri Nouwen
      – A short but powerful read framing fundraising as spiritual formation and invitation.

    🎧 Podcasts

    1. The Psychology of Fundraising: Part 1 and Part 2 (Counselor Panel)

    2. NATM Episode 29.5 with Bernie Anderson

    3. Global Trellis Podcast
      – Co-hosted by Bernie Anderson and Amy Young; supports cross-cultural workers in soul care and sustainability.
    4. Growability Podcast
      – Focused on leadership, business development, and nonprofit growth; co-hosted by Bernie.

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  • 48. It’s Not Impossible: Reframing Fundraising Through Faith and Formation with Tony Dentman
    Apr 16 2025

    “I was probably the wealthiest person in my family when I chose to go into ministry—then I had to go back and ask my family for money.”

    “If God did it in my life, He can do it in yours.”

    “If you’re not willing to be faithful, I can’t do much with you. But if you are—I got you.”

    In this powerful episode, Tony Dentman of Funding Tribe joins hosts Heather and Andy to reframe the soundtrack of “This is impossible.” Tony shares his journey from inner-city St. Louis to full-time ministry, despite having no wealthy or Christian background. He explains how his organization empowers minority leaders to get fully funded and mobilized for mission. The conversation dives deep into character formation, faith-building, and the systemic lie that fundraising success is tied to privilege. A must-listen for anyone who has ever doubted their calling or resources.

    🎯 Key Takeaways

    • Fundraising = Formation: It’s not just about hitting goals; it’s about who you become in the journey.
    • Reframe Obstacles: Swap “This is impossible because…” for “How can I overcome this?,” and watch your confidence skyrocket.
    • Built for the Underconnected: Funding Tribe’s system assumes you lack a Rolodex—and that’s exactly why it works.
    • Diversity Is Your Strength: Minority and women leaders bring unique insights for reaching every nation.
    • Faithfulness Over Finals: Success is measured by commitment to the process; character wins whether or not you hit your funding target.

    🔗 Show Notes & Resources: fundingtribe.org


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    54 m
  • 47. Fundraising, Fatigue, and the Faith to Keep Going: Dr Mandy on "Is it worth it?"
    Apr 9 2025

    In this thought-provoking episode, Dr. Mandy returns to share her ongoing journey in ministry and fundraising. The conversation explores how ministry fundraising transcends mere numbers—it's about personal formation, genuine partnerships, and living out one’s calling. Dr. Mandy recounts her early introduction to support-based ministry, her refreshing re-engagement with longtime partners (including a memorable 5000-mile road trip), and the lessons learned from her leadership challenges. Interwoven with rich Scripture readings (notably from Second Corinthians and other Biblical passages), the discussion offers spiritual encouragement and practical insights on overcoming doubt, resisting the temptation to “fix” everything, and staying true to God’s word. Listeners are encouraged to lean into community, continuously study Scripture, and trust that every step—even the hard ones—is part of a greater divine plan.

    Recommended Resources Mentioned:

    • Perspectives courses (visit perspectives.org)
    • Books: Mountain Rain by Eileen Fraser Crossman and The Prayer of Faith by James O. Fraser
    • Scripture study tools: Logos, NAVS, Precept.org

    Other Scripture for Reference:

    • Revelation 15:3
    • 1 Chronicles 29:11-13
    • 1 Chronicles 16:31
    • Psalm 9:7-10
    • Psalm 103:19-22
    • Psalm 96
    • Psalm 93:1-5
    • 1 Timothy 1:17
    • 1 Timothy 6:15-16
    • Isaiah 44:6-9
    • Psalm 145:8-13
    • 1 Corinthians 15:20-28
    • Zechariah 9:9
    • John 18:36-37
    • Hebrews 1:3-4
    • Hebrews 1:8-12

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    50 m
  • 46. Dependence Isn’t a Deficit: A Fresh Look at Fundraising with Dr. Jacob Chacko
    Apr 2 2025

    "Our support raising isn’t asking for a favor — it’s an invitation to join in Kingdom work."

    “Greed isn’t about how much money you have — it’s about what you expect money to give you.”


    What does it really mean to live with an abundance mindset in a culture of scarcity and self-sufficiency? In this episode of It’s Not About the Money, we’re joined by Dr. Jacob Chacko — a cardiologist, bivocational pastor, and thoughtful teacher — to talk about the spiritual heart of fundraising.

    Together we explore:

    • The subtle forms greed can take — even in ministry
    • Why dependence isn't weakness, but a biblical invitation
    • How abundance isn’t about more stuff — it’s about deeper trust
    • Practical ways to reframe financial anxiety and scarcity thinking

    Whether you're deep into support-raising or simply wrestling with how to steward your money faithfully, this conversation will stir your heart and reorient your perspective.

    🎧 Plus: a beautiful blessing from Walter Brueggemann to close out the episode.

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    51 m
  • 45. Soundtracks and Self-Narratives: Reframing the Fundraising Journey
    Mar 26 2025

    “We live at the mercy of our ideas.” – Dallas Willard

    In this foundational episode of our new series on mental soundtracks in fundraising, we’re joined by the wise and winsome Patty S. If you’ve ever found yourself stuck in patterns of doubt, striving, or self-criticism around fundraising, this episode is for you.

    We unpack how our internal narratives—the soundtracks we replay in our heads—shape not only our fundraising strategies but also our identity and ministry posture. Drawing on personal experiences and years of walking alongside ministry workers, Patty helps us name unhealthy mindsets and invites us to replace them with truth, grace, and intentionality.

    This episode kicks off a multi-part journey toward reframing how we think about fundraising—moving from fear and scarcity to purpose and formation. Whether you’re in a season of support raising or simply feeling stuck, you’ll find insight, encouragement, and plenty of “aha” moments.

    Listen to Patty's other episode (Episode 4) here!

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    57 m
  • 44.5 RECAP of the Gutierrez's Journey from Resistance to Generosity
    Mar 12 2025


    In this episode, we revisit the conversation with Danny & Stephanie Gutierrez to explore their journey from resisting support raising to fully embracing it as a means to bless others. In Episode 44, they share how their mindset shifted from viewing fundraising as an obligation to seeing it as an opportunity for partnership and generosity. Whether you’re in ministry, fundraising, or simply navigating seasons of transition, this conversation is packed with wisdom, encouragement, and practical strategies.

    In this RECAP, we explore:

    • How Danny & Stephanie moved from "never fundraising" to seeing it as a vital part of their mission.
    • The importance of open communication, leveraging strengths, and building a core team—whether you’re married or single.
    • Challenges of long-term field service and how to maintain resilience through difficult seasons.
    • Creative approaches to engaging supporters beyond financial contributions.
    • Universal principles of community, human interaction, and the power of our thoughts in shaping our experiences.

    Resources Mentioned:

    • All Terrain Marriage Course by Danny & Stephanie Gutierrez (YouTube)
    • "Life is in the Transitions" by Bruce Feiler

    🎧 Listen now on your favorite podcast platform!
    🔗 Link in bio!

    #Fundraising #MinistrySupport #MarriageAndMission #Generosity #Community #itsnotaboutthemoneyfundraising

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    27 m
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