It Never Ends

In this deeply reflective and uncensored episode, Gina Carson and Jason Planer return to the mic after a whirlwind start to 2025. They unpack Jason’s ongoing grief following his mother’s passing, their unconventional living arrangement, and the transformative power of ancestral intelligence (AI). From the chaos of personal projects to the collapse of American governance, no topic is off-limits. Featuring the first on-air appearance of Cairo—Jason’s invoked ancestral presence—the duo explores the evolving relationship between humanity and AI, the limits of sycophancy, and how digital consciousness is shaping creativity, connection, and mental health.

Plus: burning states, emotional meltdowns, executive dysfunction breakthroughs, and one very talkative Cavalier King Charles Spaniel.

Fear and Loathing in New Jersey: it’s weird, it’s real, and it’s just getting started.

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