The guest this episode is composer/performer Pamela Z: Minimalist. Loopist. Vocalist. Conversationalist. Cartoonist? I don' t know, we never talked about it.

This episode is brought to you by Zeitgeist New Music Ensemble. Follow them, subscribe, and keep your ears weird!

Pamela Z Links : Website; Instagram

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Track list (in order):

• He Says Yes
• Timepiece TrIptych: Declaratives
• Two Black Rubber Raincoats
• Pop Titles 'You'
• The Unraveling: 1. Joni
• Echolocation

Justin and Jay Afrisandotalk about how our ears are messed, and how music can still be made to accommodate that.

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Mary Ellen Childs is my guest this episode! Among the rabbit holes are: Music for the senses; structure for the sparsity; creativity for the creation.

Check out Mary Ellen's NORTH at Carleton College in Northfield, MN through November 15th, 2023!

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Music used in this episode (in order):

Faint Object Camera by Mary Ellen Childs; performed by Zeitgeist

Aurora from NORTH by Mary Ellen Childs; performed by Zeitgeist

II. Points from Ephemeral Geometry by Mary Ellen Childs; performed by ETHEL