Intrinsically Ordered

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  • Exploring the intersection of queer identity and catholicism - sharing stories of those who've left, remained, and created their own journeys; providing commentary on the catholic church's harmful teachings; helping those who've been hurt.

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  • Why Jordan Peterson Made Me An Atheist
    Apr 28 2025

    Jordan Peterson is famous for inspiring many to take religion seriously — but for me, he had the opposite effect. In this video, I walk you through how reading Maps of Meaning turned me from a devout Catholic who almost became a priest into an atheist — and how Peterson’s ideas unexpectedly helped me accept myself as a gay man. We'll dive into belief, metaphorical substrates, value hierarchies, meta-narratives, and why I eventually walked away from Peterson too. Strap in — it’s a journey.

    00:00 Discovering Jordan Peterson's Work
    03:26 Realizing Natural Explanations for Religious Benefits
    05:03 Understanding Peterson's Concept of God
    08:07 Metaphorical Substrate and Its Influence
    09:46 The Power of Stories and Archetypes
    15:35 Meta-Narratives: Finding Purpose and Direction
    17:43 Questioning the Need for a Supernatural God
    18:50 The Role of Belief in Religion
    25:54 Embracing My Sexuality: Peterson's Indirect Influence
    28:58 Why I Left Jordan Peterson Behind
    30:32 Critique of Peterson's Views and Methods
    34:11 Conclusion: Life Beyond Dogma

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    35 m
  • debunking EVERY catholic apologetic argument - ex-catholic apologists
    Apr 26 2025

    On today's episode, we react to a 27 page document that reports to take people from agnosticism to catholicism. Myself and Colin (ex-traditional catholics) debunk this document while getting an outsider's perspective from our friend Greg (never been very religious). Let's see how catholic apologetics play out to some experienced debaters and a fresh set of eyes.

    00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome
    02:39 Discussion on Proving Religion
    08:11 The Big Bang and God's Existence
    09:30 Critique of the Big Bang Argument
    15:54 Philosophical and Scientific Counterpoints
    31:37 Historical Reliability of the Gospels
    43:24 Exploring Historical Claims and Mystical Accounts
    44:27 Miracle Claims Across Religions
    45:31 Historical Evidence for Jesus
    49:13 Manuscript Evidence and Reliability
    51:41 Debating the Historical Accuracy of the Gospels
    01:01:04 The Role of Apologetics in Reinforcing Belief
    01:06:52 Introduction to Part Two: Converting Greg
    01:09:04 Did Jesus Claim to Be God?
    01:25:38 Introduction to the Debate
    01:26:05 The Concept of the Trinity
    01:26:39 Jesus' Divinity and Historical Context
    01:29:01 The 'I Am' Argument
    01:34:29 Miracles and Prophecies
    01:39:15 The Trilemma Argument
    01:44:02 Establishing the Church
    02:04:56 Questioning the Trinity and Monotheism
    02:05:14 Santa Claus and Apologetics
    02:06:43 Jesus Establishes the Church
    02:11:45 The Church's Succession and Authority
    02:15:54 Faith and the Catholic Church
    02:29:57 Natural vs. Supernatural Faith
    02:42:11 Critique of Catholic Charity and Unity
    02:43:39 Questioning the Infallibility of the Church
    02:46:25 Debating the Authority of the Church
    02:49:27 Concluding Thoughts on Faith and Apologetics
    02:53:39 Final Reflections and Advice

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    3 h y 22 m
  • Was Pope Francis Really an LGBT Ally? A Critical Analysis
    Apr 23 2025

    In this critical follow-up to our earlier reflections on Pope Francis’s passing, three gay ex-Catholics break down the truth behind the progressive myth. While headlines hail him as a revolutionary, we ask: did anything actually change for queer Catholics? From catechism clauses to conversion therapy, brunch with trans folks to doctrinal silence—this episode confronts the carefully curated optics of compassion.

    We’re not here to hate—just to tell the truth. What could have changed? What stayed the same? What harm still hides behind a smile? Tune in to hear three ex-believers decode the Vatican’s most PR-friendly pope.

    00:00 Introduction and Today's Topic
    01:00 Initial Reactions to Pope Francis
    03:01 Personal Journeys and Opinions
    06:09 Pope Francis' Actions and Inactions
    10:04 The Church's Stance on LGBT Issues
    17:13 Comparing Traditional and Progressive Catholics
    22:43 Pope Francis' Legacy and Future Implications
    26:44 Cultural Significance of the Latin Mass
    28:18 Pope Francis' Stance on Homosexuality
    29:16 The Future of Pope Francis' Legacy
    31:13 The Church's Harmful Teachings on LGBTQ+ Issues
    32:30 Pope Francis' Missed Opportunities for Change
    37:49 The Catholic Church's Influence and Power
    39:42 Pope Francis' Actions and Inactions
    46:22 Concluding Thoughts on Pope Francis
    50:46 Final Remarks and Farewell

    To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad

    To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

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    51 m
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