If Not Christian Nationalism, Then What?

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In this episode, we continue one of the most challenging and uncomfortable conversations Christians are having today… faith, politics, and the role of the Christian voice in the public square.
After our last discussion surrounding the Talarico episode, we invited our friend Alex to join us and push the conversation even further. What begins as a response quickly turns into a deep and honest dialogue about Christian nationalism, political identity, hypocrisy in the Church, and what it really means to represent Christ in today’s culture.
This episode isn’t about picking political sides—it’s about learning how to think, how to disagree with humility, and how to keep Christ at the center in a world that constantly pulls us toward tribalism.
At the end of the day, the goal isn’t to win debates… it’s to pursue truth, seek wisdom, and ultimately point everything back to Jesus.

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