𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝑰𝑻 𝑩𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒏𝒆𝒔𝒔 𝑷𝒍𝒂𝒚𝒃𝒐𝒐𝒌

Welcome to episode 22! Government, governance, and the real-world evolution of BRM.

🎙️ In this episode of the IT Business Partner Playbook Podcast, I had a fantastic conversation with Steve, a Business Relationship Manager working in the UK government’s Department for Transport. We explored the unique dynamics of public sector BRM work - where formal structure meets human connection - and how Steve is navigating both with practical wisdom and an eye toward innovation.

💡 Key Highlights:

1️⃣ From Project Delivery to Strategic BRM:

Steve shared his career journey from local and central government roles into business partnering, describing how he's redefined his role from traditional delivery into strategic influence. With support from leadership, he’s been able to set boundaries, clarify value, and build credibility.

2️⃣ Data-Driven BRM in Action:

We discussed the challenge of leveraging existing data (like software usage and delivery metrics) to offer more strategic insights to the business. Steve shared how trust and understanding play a vital role in getting traction across diverse teams - from infrastructure to digital.

3️⃣ The Advisory Evolution:

Steve is shifting from service provider to trusted advisor - balancing steering group involvement with a continuous effort to stay connected to broader business priorities and policies.

4️⃣ AI & Practical Tools:

Steve is using AI (like ChatGPT) to support bid reviews and stakeholder insights, while recognizing the need for critical oversight. We also explored the development of an insight library - a simple but powerful way to share knowledge, sharpen strategic thinking, and plan more effectively.

5️⃣ Mentorship, Networking & Growth:

From mentoring future BRMs to engaging with major players like Google and Microsoft, Steve brings a people-first mindset to every interaction. His advice? Stay curious, communicate openly, and use BRM competencies as your guide for continuous development.

You can find Steve on LinkedIn Here:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/steve-conlon-b935bb137/

This episode is packed with honest insights from the front lines of government BRM. If you're a BRM navigating complexity, or a leader looking to understand the strategic potential of the role - this one’s for you.

📢 Your Turn:

Are you building a BRM capability in a highly governed or regulated environment? How are you using AI or data to support your stakeholders? I’d love to hear your stories - let’s keep learning from each other.

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The IT Business Partner Playbook Podcast

In this episode of The IT Business Partner Playbook, I’m joined by Jay – a seasoned IT professional whose career path has taken him from typewriter repairs to enterprise-level strategy.

Jay brings deep insight into the evolving role of Business Relationship Management and the reality of embedding value practices inside complex organizations.

🔹 From Tech Troubleshooter to Strategic Partner

Jay shared his unconventional start in IT and how it shaped his approach to partnership, empathy, and communication. His transition into a Business Relationship Manager role was both opportunistic and intentional – and filled with practical lessons for anyone making the leap from operations to strategy.

🔹 Standing Up a BRM Function

We explored how Jay helped develop the BRM capability – with early support from the CIO and inspiration from the BRM Institute. Over time, they built their own frameworks, overcame resistance, and positioned themselves to influence innovation initiatives across the business.

🔹 Balancing IT and Business Relationships

Jay stressed the importance of staying close to both camps – business and IT. We discussed how credibility with delivery teams is often overlooked, and why BRMs and Business Partners must act as interpreters and translators, not just connectors.

🔹 Owning Value, Not Projects

Jay reflected on the need to rationalise demand early – starting with business intent and outcomes before bringing in technical teams. While BRMs don't manage projects, they do own the value – and play a critical role in protecting organizational resources.

🔹 Getting Business to Step Up

One key takeaway: technology projects fail when business ownership is missing. Jay and I spoke about how critical it is to involve stakeholders from the start, and how demand shaping and scope control are essential for long-term success.

🔹 From Tactical Wins to Strategic Influence

Jay shared how BRM success starts at the tactical level – solving real problems, building trust – and evolves into strategic collaboration once credibility is earned.

🔹 Mentorship and BRM Confidence

Jay also spoke passionately about mentoring emerging professionals, and how confidence, clarity, and a good elevator pitch can set a new BRM on the right track.

This episode is packed with practical insight – especially for Business Partners working to earn trust, build credibility, and move their organizations from firefighting to forward-thinking.

My thanks to Jay for joining me and sharing so openly in this conversation. You can find his linked in here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/j-benoit-brm/

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The IT Business Partner Playbook Podcast

🎙️ “From Lawless to Strategic: Redefining the BRM Role with Dr. Shellie”

In this compelling episode of The IT Business Partner Playbook, I’m joined by Dr. Shellie Bowman, a thoughtful and experienced Business Relationship Manager whose career has spanned public leadership, program management, and business transformation.

Together, we explore what it means to truly understand the BRM role - and how to navigate the “lawless” spaces many of us find ourselves in when the path isn’t clearly defined.

🔹 Discovering the BRM Role

Shellie shared how he was already doing the work of a BRM long before holding the title - and why the title itself finally felt like “home.”

🔹 Building Credibility in Unfamiliar Territory

From gaining stakeholder trust to navigating IT politics, Shellie reflected on what it takes to sell the BRM value internally - and how certifications, while not perfect, can provide structure and credibility.

🔹 Failing Successfully & Financial Strategy

One of the standout moments: how Shellie worked with a CTO to cut running costs, boosting profits by almost 2% - and how that strategic win raised the profile of the BRM team.

🔹 Resilience, Thick Skin & Culture Change

We talked about the personal side of BRM work - why confidence, clarity, and relationship-building matter as much as frameworks and KPIs.

🔹 Strategy on a Page & Roadshows

Shellie shared practical tools like his “strategy on a page” approach, and how BRM leaders can run roadshows to evangelize their mission, align teams, and build community.

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