How the Light Gets In 5 - The Sweet Grandma and the Old Hag

If someone asked you if you like to have problems you would probably say “no.” But admit it, sometimes you do. Sometimes you like to pit yourself against another person and sometimes you like to have a story to tell that creates the “us vs. them” mentality that we all buy into, if we are place in the right – or rather, the wrong – circumstances. 

In this episode, Julie talks about how quickly our love of suffering – and our refusal to suffer – can transform the challenges we face in life. 

Julie Scipioni, co-author of the bestselling novel series, "Iris & Lily" is your host. Through How the Light Gets In, Julie explores cracks in all their mysterious and troubling forms and uses them to help us find our way to a more meaningful, compassionate - and even humorous - life experience.

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