Hope Beyond Despair with Steve Garnaas-Holmes

Not all heroes wear capes, and not all preachers use pulpits. Some use newsletters and websites, like Pastor Steve Garnaas-Holmes. Pastor Steve writes spiritual poetry for his flock, 7,000 people from all around the country and world. On the morning after the US presidential election, Pastor Steve sent out a poem that helped bring many back from the depths of fear and despair. A couple days later, we had a conversation about what keeps Pastor Steve from giving in to despair, what's holding everything together, and what we're called to do in these difficult days. I hope this conversation is a little thing that keeps hope alive in you. And just a note: like many of the best pastors our there, Pastor Steve uses a few fun words, a little bit of choice language. Seems appropriate.

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