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  • How to Build a Business That Supports Your Life, Not Drains It
    Apr 30 2025
    Kenny Chapman and Chris Crew sit down with Stephen Christopher of Wit Digital, an innovative marketing agency for any home service business. They break down the real reasons marketing efforts often fall flat in the home service business space. The trio emphasizes that success isn’t about chasing more leads or shiny marketing tactics—it’s about emotional clarity, business fundamentals, and aligning your company with the life you actually want. Stephen shares why SEO is still foundational in 2025, how most business owners are solving the wrong problems, and why agencies should be true partners, not just vendors. Kenny and Chris stress the importance of endurance, long-term vision, and blocking out noise to focus on what actually works. By the end of this conversation, you’ll walk away with a deeper understanding of why most business owners are still solving the wrong problem—and what to do instead. Stephen starts by explaining why compartmentalizing your life and business is a trap. When you stop treating “life” and “business” as separate, you make decisions that align with your whole self.Chris believes business owners should build their business around their life. Instead of building a business that drains you, Chris talks about creating one that supports the lifestyle you want and how that mindset shift often leads to more success, not less.Kenny shares why playing the long game is the antidote to fear, burnout, and bad marketing decisions. Short-term thinking traps you in fear and reactive choices—committing to consistency over chasing shiny objects gives you real momentum and peace of mind.This is where most business owners get it wrong with agencies: according to Stephen, most business owners have a “set it and forget it” mindset when hiring an agency. They hire an agency and assume their job is done. Stephen reveals how to reframe what your marketing agency is responsible for—and why expecting them to solve all your problems sets you up to fail.Stephen highlights the surprising role of community involvement in lead generation, and why sponsoring events like a kids’ football league might do more than another PPC ad.Stephen reveals the #1 quality of a great marketing agency and explains why it has nothing to do with clicks or impressions.The best agencies look beyond the surface. They analyze call recordings, explore missed opportunities, and collaborate with you to improve performance on all ends.Why Stephen spends more time helping clients with emotional clarity than marketing strategy.Most business challenges stem from personal confusion or misalignment, not poor tactics. Emotional clarity, not more data, is often what unlocks growth.Kenny explains how to stay grounded and effective by returning to the basics even in a noisy, AI-driven digital world.Kenny and Stephen make a case for simplicity. While the world chases trends, sticking to timeless fundamentals like SEO, customer service, and clear messaging creates reliable, lasting success.Stephen shares why SEO still matters in 2025, and how AI has actually made it more essential, not less. So if you’re ignoring SEO, you’re invisible to the algorithms that drive your visibility.Chris explains why business owners need to stop chasing more leads and start fixing the real issues behind poor lead conversion. Most businesses don’t have a lead volume problem, they have a lead quality or follow-through problem.Chris believes your most powerful marketing strategy begins with knowing yourself—and shares how intention sets the stage for everything.Clarity of purpose leads to more aligned clients, better business decisions, and surprising ease. The universe tends to respond when you’re focused and intentional.Stephen says you should plan, but also expect plans to evolve. Businesses are living things—when you hold plans too tightly, you miss new paths and possibilities.Stephen reveals what most people get wrong about success. He challenges the cultural obsession with ultra-high revenue, sharing how many “successful” business owners are burned out and disconnected from what they truly want.Kenny breaks down the mass illusion of “success at scale”—and why smaller, profitable, values-aligned businesses often win in the long run.Kenny reflects on how we’ve been hypnotized by viral definitions of success, and why there’s immense power in choosing a different path that still delivers wealth and well-being.How to spot bad advice before it hurts your business—or your personal life—and why credentials aren’t enough anymore. Stephen warns against following people whose lives don’t reflect the balance or fulfillment you want, even if their business looks successful on paper.Stephen explains that “we need more leads” is often a symptom, not a cause. The real work lies in diagnosing what’s actually broken inside the sales, messaging, or leadership structure.Why the agency you hire should be looking ...
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  • Direct Mail & Marketing Isn’t Dead: Here’s How to Make It Work
    Apr 23 2025

    Direct mail isn’t dead—and it won’t die until mailboxes die.

    Kenny Chapman and Chris Crew break down why direct mail still works and how to get the most out of it in the digital age. They discuss how to craft high-impact direct mail, ways to write an opening line that keeps readers hooked, how to keep your mail out of the trash, and the creative strategies that grab attention—like mailing preloaded iPads.

    By the end of this episode, you’ll understand why direct mail is still effective, how to get your message opened and read, and how to incorporate it into a winning marketing strategy.

    • Is direct mail marketing dead? Kenny starts by explaining why direct mail marketing is alive and well.
    • While many people think direct mail is outdated, it’s far from dead. As long as people have mailboxes, direct mail will continue to be an effective strategy.
    • Chris points out that people still check their mail, making direct mail a direct-to-consumer channel.
    • Kenny shares how most people sort their mail. They stand over the trash can and toss out ads immediately. Understanding this behavior is key to designing mail that avoids the trash bin.
    • According to Chris, direct mail is more than just letters--it also includes postcards, shared mailings, and even high-end packages that grab attention.
    • Chris emphasizes that direct mail guarantees your message reaches the mailbox—something digital ads can't always promise.
    • Chris shares creative direct mail strategies that get your mail opened. Some marketers used to send iPads with preloaded videos about their product—because if someone receives an iPad, they’re more likely to open it and watch the video.
    • If your mail doesn't grab attention right away, it goes straight to the trash. Kenny stresses the importance of standing out instantly.
    • According to Chris, a great way to stand out instantly is to add creativity to envelopes in three simple ways:
    • Make it hand addressed: Open rates of hand addressed envelopes are exponentially higher than those of typed ones.
    • Fold your letter for maximum impact. Not all folds are equal. Chris explains why a C-fold (instead of a Z-fold) makes a letter easier to read and more likely to be engaged with.
    • The power of a compelling opening line. Your first line should be catchy enough to grab attention and expertly written such that it gets the reader to read the next line.
    • Consistency is key in direct mail marketing. Chris reminds us that, just like in digital marketing, people need to see a brand 7 to 10 times before they take action.
    • How to integrate direct mail into a bigger strategy. Kenny and Chris discuss how direct mail shouldn’t exist in isolation. It should be part of a multi-layered marketing campaign, including digital ads and social media.
    • Follow the money to target the right audience. Chris explains how to use data like median household income, home value, and age of home to ensure you always send mail to the right prospects.
    • Successful campaigns use direct mail alongside other channels such as social media, paid ads, and content marketing for the best results.

    Mentioned in This Episode:

    HomeServiceBusinessSuccessShow.com/s2e8

    The Blue Collar Success Group

    City-data.com

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    18 m
  • Winning at Social Media Marketing: What Home Service Businesses Need to Know
    Apr 16 2025
    Social media marketing is one of the most valuable tools for home service businesses – but only if done right. Kenny Chapman and Chris Crew break down how contractors can use social media to build trust, attract customers, and grow their brand and business without feeling overwhelmed. From choosing the right platforms to creating engaging content (and everything in between!), they share practical tips to help you maximize your online presence and turn your social media efforts into actual business opportunities. Kenny Chapman kicks off the conversation by highlighting the underutilization of strategy, commitment, and consistency in social media marketing.Chris Crew describes social media as “the most undervalued marketing platform there is.”The #1 challenge Chris sees contractors face is that not everyone is comfortable being the face of the company or creating video and visual content for social channels.When it comes to video content, many people immediately think of Facebook and Instagram – but in doing so, they often overlook the second-largest search engine: YouTube.Video has been a key marketing asset for Blue Collar Success Group since Kenny launched it 14 years ago, starting with video training and marketing materials.Kenny explains that culture brings life internally, while social media offers outsiders a window into that company culture and who’s behind it.Chris touches on the fact that social media serves multiple purposes, depending on the intentions you set as both an operator and an individual.People primarily go to social media for two reasons: information and entertainment.Social media is an excellent tool for home service businesses to humanize their brand – showing what’s behind the uniform and who’s behind the phone.Chris shares some noteworthy stats: 85% of U.S. adults use YouTube, while 70% use Facebook.Chris’ advice for navigating the vast number of social platforms: “Go deep rather than wide.”Instead of trying to be on every platform, focus on mastering a couple.Chris mentions an insight he heard from a content marketing expert: “Quantity has a quality all of its own.”Kenny talks about the importance of consistency and how it applies to your unique situation – having a dedicated social media person is different from handling content on your own.Chris and Kenny shed light on the engagement aspect of social platforms and how it impacts your content visibility.Reminder: people are still wary of contractors! Social media platforms like Facebook, YouTube, and Instagram can help build trust.Chris makes an analogy between social media demographics and fishing, emphasizing the importance of knowing where your ideal customers spend time.A key takeaway: you may be a social media user but, in many cases, you are not your own demographic.Kenny and Chris stress the importance of getting laser-focused on your avatar (ideal client) – who exactly are you trying to reach on social media?Chris warns against underestimating the power of visual content and leveraging it effectively.When investing in social media marketing, understanding the ROI of your efforts is crucial to making informed decisions. Mentioned in This Episode: HomeServiceBusinessSuccessShow.com/s2e7 The Blue Collar Success Group Kim Kardashian Facebook YouTube Instagram X Threads TikTok NextDoor
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    23 m
  • Beyond Five Stars: The Smart Way to Use Reviews to Boost Your Business
    Apr 9 2025

    Kenny Chapman and Chris Crew talk about all things business reviews. They share compelling statistics about the role reviews play in the purchasing process, how to handle negative reviews, and how your online presence can either multiply or diminish the effectiveness of your marketing dollars.

    You’ll hear the 4-step process Chris uses to approach online reviews, how you can get more quality reviews, and how Chris used a 3-star review as a marketing asset.

    • Kenny Chapman kicks things off by discussing that everything is sales.
    • Kenny introduces the main topic of this episode, reviews, by emphasizing their importance.
    • Chris Crew talks about how the customer experience and referral customer dynamic worked before the World Wide Web became the go-to resource for everybody.
    • When it comes to online reviews, it’s important to remember that different searchers have different criteria around reviews.
    • Chris shares his four-step approach to looking at the online reviews a business has received.
    • According to Chris your reputation as a business hinges upon how you handle things when they don’t go great – and not upon what you do when things go great…
    • Kenny talks about how reviews are approached at the Blue Collar Success Group, and the role Amazon has played when it comes to reviews and their role within the buying process.
    • 93% of consumers say online reviews impact their purchasing decision.
    • Kenny finds it mind-blowing to have almost 80% of people trust an online review as much as they do recommendations from friends and family.
    • The fact that approximately 54% of consumers would only consider using a business with a minimum four-star rating means that half the population expects you to not be perfect.
    • 87% of consumers prefer businesses with three-to-five-star ratings before considering them.
    • Chris touches upon a couple of scenarios in which you may have received negative online reviews – and how to deal with them.
    • 70% of customers say they’re more likely to leave a review when an account is responsive to reviews.
    • Chris sees an online review as a confirmation that says, “you did a good job!”
    • At Blue Collar, it’s important for different team members to know how to effectively get online reviews – Chris role plays how to get a review as a technician.
    • Kenny points out that, for him, whenever a customer makes a purchase, they buy the company and the technician, then they buy the product or service.
    • Kenny explains how home service businesses can get more quality online reviews and how they can get their team members to buy in.
    • Spoiler alert: privacy and secrets are long gone!
    • For Chris, your online presence is either a multiplier or a divider of your marketing dollars.
    • Kenny and Chris talk about how to leverage positive online reviews as marketing materials.
    • Chris shares how he leveraged a three start review as a marketing asset.
    • The key takeaway: It’s not just about collecting five-star reviews—there’s hidden magic in all reviews if you leverage them properly in your business.

    Mentioned in This Episode:

    HomeServiceBusinessSuccessShow.com/s2e6

    The Blue Collar Success Group

    Professional Tech Academy

    Yelp

    Amazon

    Tony Robbins

    Oprah Winfrey

    Peter Diamandis

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    32 m
  • Mailbag Episode: How to Grow Your Business Through Pricing, Sales Strategy and Process Optimization
    Apr 2 2025

    This episode is a mailbag episode in which Kenny Chapman and Chris Crew tackle a couple of crucial questions from audience members.

    From the biggest concern that keeps them up at night to the #1 cause of business failures and increasing credit card transaction fees.

    You’ll hear Kenny and Chris shed some light on these important issues, some of which will help you grow your business.

    • Kenny Chapman and Chris Crew kick off the episode by addressing a question from audience member Haley, who asks about the challenges that are keeping them up at night in a time where consumers are financially struggling.
    • Chris acknowledges that building a business is fun and rewarding and that different people have different concerns.
    • The goal of pretty much every home service business owner is to grow top line – but it’s important to do it profitably, stresses Chris.
    • Chris explains why growing unprofitably is the most painful thing in the world, and why you should get profitability dialed in first.
    • Chris and Kenny share a real-life example of a company that did not focus on profitability in its first three years–and how its business transformed once it did!
    • Kenny brings Wall Street and unicorn startups into the conversation.
    • Process optimization is the challenge that keeps Kenny up at night.
    • Activity, commitment, courage, focus, confidence, implementation, and non-stop training all contribute to making a company take notice and want to hire you
    • Chris discusses an approach that can generate very strong margins on low-end equipment.
    • Scheduling is the focus of the next audience question…
    • Chris touches upon the importance of having a call priority matrix in the context of sales.
    • Kenny reiterates that it’s about being profitable, as well as the fact that less is more.
    • “Every day, we’re doing the best we can in the human experience, in the service business world,” says Kenny.
    • Remember: your best is all you’ve got!
    • Audience member Taylor asked Kenny and Chris for help in creating scripts and verbiage regarding a 3% credit card fee – something that Taylor’s customers don’t like.
    • Chris’ advice to Taylor is to increase all prices across the board by 3% and assume that everyone will use a credit card.
    • Not being priced correctly is the #1 reason why businesses fail.
    • Kenny and Chris bring up how a customer may feel if they’re presented with increased credit card fees, as well as other types of fees.

    Mentioned in This Episode:

    HomeServiceBusinessSuccessShow.com/s2e5

    The Blue Collar Success Group

    Professional Tech Academy

    Les Brown

    Office Champion Academy

    Venmo

    Bud Light

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    32 m
  • From Sales Grit to Growth: Lessons from Mid-America Mister Sparky
    Mar 26 2025
    Kenny Chapman and Chris Chrew welcome Darrell Boyd and Aaron Hagan from Mid-America Mister Sparky! They take back the curtain on Mister Sparky’s winning strategy for sales success – including the key role of company culture, the power of grit, and intentionality around sales. You’ll hear more about avoiding the top-line sales intoxication trap, the importance of being disciplined with your focus, and the ongoing blue collar “tsunami.” Kenny Chapman and Chris Crew kick things off by introducing their guests, Darrell Boyd and Aaron Hagan, and by sharing how Chris and Aaron actually go way back.January 3, 2005 was a career-defining moment for Chris: it’s when he went to work for Mister Sparky in Atlanta.Mid-America Mister Sparky is the largest privately-held franchise in the HSB network.Aaron and Darrell touch upon them meeting at an electrician on-time class back in 2007.Darrell has a message for all those in the home service industry: It’s a tough space to be in, but you should never forget that you do have support as well as access to others.Kenny doesn’t believe in number ones and number twos…His approach ties into Dan Sullivan’s concept of Unique Ability.Darrell and Aaron talk about how, as dominant number ones, they deal with people who have strong personalities.Not being on the same page is something that rarely happens to Mid-America Mister Sparky’s Darrell Boyd and Aaron Hagan.Aaron opens up about his “this will not fail!” attitude, especially when he started his joint venture with Darrell.When he first started, Kenny was one of those “you don’t understand my market” people.Kenny is a fan of treating a small market as if it were smaller.With Mid-America Mister Sparky, Darrell and Aaron are in over 10 different states.Aaron illustrates Mister Sparky’s approach in the region Darrell and Aaron are guests of.Years ago, Kenny shared an important lesson with Chris: Always aim at making your future greater than your past.A company Christmas gala is something Aaron and Darrell use to build a better company culture – they take back the curtain on what that experience looks like.Kenny sees everyone on the balance sheet as the most important asset home service businesses have.Kenny really likes Chris’ principle of wanting to keep the main thing the main thing.Darrell and Aaron explain how they have been able to avoid the top-line sales intoxication trap and be disciplined with their focus.The average ticket among the Mister Sparky locations Aaron and Darrell manage is $1,500.Intentionality around sales has been one of the keys to Mid-America Mister Sparky’s success.Kenny doesn’t believe in failure but only in results.As the saying goes, “Your first million is always the hardest.”Aaron and Darrell discuss how they went from watching and learning to becoming those people that watch and learn from.Chris warns against growing at the expense of not being profitable.Kenny sees the beginning of a shift in the home service industry: the blue collar class will replace the white collar class in this space.For Aaron, grit is one of the most important things to have to achieve success.“If you’re not failing, you’re not trying,” says Aaron.Remember: When you fail… it’s not over.Darrell talks about the importance of having urgency match the need.At the end of the day, the home service space is a people’s business. Mentioned in This Episode: HomeServiceBusinessSuccessShow.com/s2e4 The Blue Collar Success Group Professional Tech Academy Mid-America Mister Sparky Darrell Boyd on LinkedIn Aaron Hagan on LinkedIn Cameron Harold Dan Sullivan Roger Bannister
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  • Turning "Just Looking" Shoppers into Paying Customers
    Mar 19 2025

    “How do I turn ‘just looking’ prospects into paying customers?” is probably one of the most recurring questions among home service salespeople…and that’s exactly what hosts Kenny Chapman and Chris Crew tackle in this episode of the Home Service Business Success show.

    They talk about the importance of having a process to follow, common mistakes salespeople make when visiting prospects’ homes, and why you shouldn’t fight objections but rather follow them.

    You’ll get to hear Chris and Kenny skills practice (aka role play) and share the step-by-step process that, if followed, will allow you to close more prospects.

    • Today’s episode addresses how to turn “just looking” prospects into paying customers.
    • Chris Crew views process as something that “outperforms anything and anybody.”
    • Chris discusses the importance of not making assumptions in sales – and the consequences when you do.
    • Uncovering a prospect’s motive is the most important task when you walk into their home for the first time.
    • Trying to shortcut the process and qualifying prospects too quickly are two of the biggest mistakes home service salespeople make.
    • Kenny Chapman believes it’s imperative to allow the process to do what it’s meant to do.
    • Chris and Kenny engage in skill practice (aka role play) and break down the process you should follow to qualify a prospect when visiting their home.
    • Kenny emphasizes the power of running a process while allowing prospects to feel they are in control.
    • Chris and Kenny unpack the scenario where a prospect says, “I’m going to look to get a couple more estimates before I make a decision.”
    • Remember: when there’s no established buying criteria, prices become the default criteria prospects will rely on.
    • For Kenny, it’s important to remember that prospects are always “just looking” until they’re not…
    • Chris and Kenny advocate not fighting the objection, but rather following it – by following the conversation, you’ll win more often than not.

    Mentioned in This Episode:

    HomeServiceBusinessSuccessShow.com/s2e3

    The Blue Collar Success Group

    Sales Specialist Academy

    HSBS season 2 episode 2 - HomeServiceBusinessSuccessShow.com/s2e2

    Best Buy

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    21 m
  • Conquering the "I Need to Talk to My Spouse" Objection
    Mar 12 2025

    “I need to speak to my spouse.”

    That’s an objection that many home service salespeople fear – you hear that, you’re doomed…

    Why do some people bring that point up during an appointment and what can you do to conquer that objection to successfully close the sale?

    In today’s episode of the Home Service Business Success Show, hosts Kenny Chapman and Chris Crew discuss how to prevent the “I need to speak to my spouse objection.”

    You’ll hear about the mindset needed, the reasons for that objection, and strategies you can use (like alternative closing and the “be-back appointment”) to overcome it.

    • This episode looks at what home service companies can do leading up to and during the “I need to talk to my spouse” objection they may face.
    • For Chris Crew, the intake process whenever a phone conversation about the estimate for a big ticket item is taking place is key for setting up – and ultimately closing – the sale in person.
    • One of the key steps of the process is to understand who the main decision maker is and ensure that they will be present at the time of the in-person appointment.
    • Additionally, it’s imperative to communicate to prospects that there’s an expected time commitment, which will help when meeting them in person at their home.
    • Chris shares a simple strategy you can use to increase the chances of all parties being present at the time of your visit.
    • The “I need to talk to my spouse” conversation typically arises toward the end of an exchange – Kenny Chapman believes that it should occur earlier, rather than later.
    • Kenny believes that every big purchase (of $1,000 or more) is a decision that people should discuss with their spouse/significant other.
    • Chris and Kenny talk about the fact that, as a high-performing salesperson, you’re going to have to do some nights and weekends.
    • Kenny touches upon how COVID not only changed the way millions of people work but also the impact of those changes on the sales process of home service businesses.
    • Chris brings up the concept of the so-called “be-back appointment” into the conversation – including when to rely on it.
    • Chris and Kenny discuss the mindset needed and the steps you can take to facilitate the “I need to speak to my spouse” conversation and turn the momentum your way.
    • Chris provides a breakdown of the “alternative close” strategy that you could leverage when having sales conversations.
    • “Alternative closing goes back to consultative selling when I’m more involved with identifying what the customer wants, instead of me telling them what they need,” says Chris.

    Mentioned in This Episode:

    HomeServiceBusinessSuccessShow.com/s2e2

    The Blue Collar Success Group

    Sales Specialist Academy

    IFTTT – If This Then That

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