It’s a “Coffee With Kenny” that just kept going, so we turned it into a “Kenny Conversation.” NASCAR Hall of Famer Mark Martin and his son, Matt, drove their RV up from Arkansas to see good friend Kenny Wallace in his St. Louis race shop. A great discussion on the state of all things NASCAR ensued, and Kenny admits Mark was right all along about the points format! The fellas discuss the best strategies for getting drivers to show their personalities more, and if the Next-Gen needs a redesign.

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This Kenny Conversation, originally airing 12/19/23, hits all the highlights between one of Kenny’s closest friends from his NASCAR days: the great Rick Mast. These two battled for years in the Busch Series and kept the rivalry going in Cup. Hear Rick's famous story about having to sell a cow to fund his racing career. While Rick won 9 Busch Series races, his crowning achievement was sitting on the pole for the inaugural Brickyard 400 back in 1994. Mast shares some great stories from that historic event, including how Indianapolis humbled the great Dale Earnhardt. Whenever Kenny Wallace & Rick Mast get together, you don’t want to miss it!

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The 2025 NASCAR season has come to a close, and we've crowned our latest Cup, Xfinity, & Truck Series Champions! Herm & Schrader recap all 3 championship races and discuss their takeaways from the season finale weekend at Phoenix. The biggest shock from championship weekend: Denny Hamlin coming up just short of winning his 1st Cup Series championship, with Kyle Larson snatching victory away from him during a GWC finish. The fellas debate if taking 4 tires was the right call or the nail in Denny's coffin. Xfinity's championship race saw Jesse Love steal a title away from the heavily favored JRM drivers, but not every champion was a surprise. Corey Heim executed a 7-wide "Heim Bomb" on a GWC finish that handed him the Truck Series title. We wrap up the show with a little dirt racing news and look ahead to the offseason and NASCAR's 2026 season!

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