Chronic fatigue patients often focus on infections and toxins while missing a critical piece of the puzzle: structural dysfunction and lymphatic drainage. Dr. Eric Gordon sits down with Dr. Raymond Perrin, the osteopath whose groundbreaking research in the early 1990s revealed how thoracic spine dysfunction and impaired neurolymphatic flow drive neuroinflammation in ME/CFS.

Dr. Perrin explains why treating the sympathetic nervous system through spinal manipulation and cranial work can restore glymphatic drainage from the brain, and how structural injuries create the conditions for toxin accumulation and persistent inflammation that keep people chronically ill.

Episode Highlights:

• Thoracic spine dysfunction activates sympathetic overdrive and blocks lymphatic drainage, creating conditions for neuroinflammation and chronic illness.
• The glymphatic system drains toxins from the brain through specific pathways that malfunction in ME/CFS, fibromyalgia, and Long COVID.
• Structural injuries and spinal misalignments create the underlying conditions that allow infections or toxins to trigger chronic illness

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1. [0:02:27] Thoracic Spine & Sympathetics Drive ME/CFS Mechanisms
2. [0:08:59] Lymphatics Are Neurologically Driven, Not Passive Tubes
3. [0:20:10] Neurolymphatic / Glymphatic System Clears Brain Toxins
4. [0:30:57] The Perrin Technique: Five Signs & a Drainage Strategy
5. [0:57:55] Long COVID as a Neuro‑Lymphatic Drainage Failure

About Raymond Perrin, DO, PhD

Dr. Raymond Perrin is an osteopath and researcher who has specialized in ME/CFS since 1989, when he discovered that treating thoracic spine dysfunction resolved chronic fatigue symptoms in a cyclist. He earned his doctorate in 2005 from the University of Salford for his groundbreaking work on cerebrospinal fluid and lymphatic drainage in ME/CFS, introducing the concept of the neurolymphatic system years before the glymphatic system was officially recognized.

Learn more https://theperrintechnique.com/

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Chronic illness often traps people in a cycle where treatments stop working, and the body can reject everything, even gentle remedies. Dr. Eric Gordon sits down with Dr. Cathleen King, who spent over a decade housebound with Lyme, mold illness, and multiple chemical sensitivities before discovering that nervous system work was the missing piece in her recovery.

They discuss why addressing the Cell Danger Response and vagus nerve dysfunction comes first, before protocols and treatments can actually work. And also how simple daily practices can shift someone from reactive and bedbound to functional again, and why trauma processing and somatic work matter as much as any medical intervention.

Episode Highlights:

• The body stuck in Cell Danger Response will reject treatments until the nervous system signals safety through vagus nerve toning and limbic system retraining.
• Simple daily practices, such as specific breathing patterns, eye movements, and humming, can restore basic function within days to weeks for highly sensitive patients.
• Brain retraining without vagus nerve work first often fails because people with trauma histories find safety and calm threatening rather than healing.
• Somatic work and posture directly affect the autonomic nervous system through the upper cervical spine and suboccipital tension.
• Real resilience means developing the capacity to feel difficult emotions and life disruptions without crashing back to ground zero.
• Integration takes precedence over finding perfect protocols when the nervous system is dysregulated and reactive to everything.

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[0:01:07] Kathleen King’s Personal Experience and Development of 'Primal Trust'

[0:03:52] The Need for Scientific Understanding About the Nervous System

[0:07:21] Vagus Nerve Toning Tools and Practical Exercises

[0:09:38] Sequencing of Tools and Safety in Brain Retraining

[0:13:34 Processing Emotions is Necessary for True Resilience

[0:18:52]The Role of the Body’s Physical Structure and Awareness

About Cathleen King, DPT

Dr. Cathleen King is a physical therapist and neuroscience-based mind-body practitioner. Her professional focus is on chronic illness and trauma healing. She is the founder and CEO of Primal Trust, a rapidly growing global platform that helps people unlock their self-healing. Her online program combines brain retraining, vagus nerve toning, somatics, and trauma-informed practices.

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Galectin-3 is emerging as a key driver of chronic inflammation, yet most people have never heard of it. This protein creates inflammatory microenvironments that trap immune cells, disrupt circulation, promote fibrosis, and accelerate disease progression throughout the body.

In this episode, Dr. Eric Gordon speaks with Ruby Tischoff about how elevated Galectin-3 contributes to neurodegeneration, cardiovascular dysfunction, and systemic immune dysregulation, and what can be done about it.

Episode Highlights:

• How Galectin-3 organizes inflammatory microenvironments that impair vascular and organ function
• The connection between elevated Galectin-3 and neurodegeneration, heart disease, and immune dysfunction
• Strategies to reduce Galectin-3 activity, including Pectasol modified citrus pectin, mindfulness practices, and targeted nutrition

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[0:00:00] Galectin-3 Drives Chronic Inflammation and Fibrosis

[0:05:00] Toxins Elevate Galectin-3 and Fuel Neurodegenerative Disease

[0:10:00] Modified Citrus Pectin as a Galectin-3 Inhibitor and Detox Agent

[0:15:00] Broad Detox Benefits of Modified Citrus Pectin

[0:20:00] Galectin-3 Testing Limitations and Considerations

About Ruby Tischoff, FDN-P

Ruby Tischoff, FDN-P, is Director of Education for ecoNugenics, a functional diagnostic nutrition practitioner and natural health expert with over 25 years of experience in integrative medicine and nutraceutical science.

Ruby has worked closely under the clinical mentorship of renowned physician Isaac Eliaz, MD, and is a recognized expert in the fields of galectin-3 research and therapeutic targeting, safe detoxification, and nutritional science, among other areas.

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More info on Galectin-3 and research links https://dreliaz.org/research/galectin-3-research/

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