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Golf Underground with Wardo, Sully and George Brett

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Golf Underground is the third funniest podcast in golf! We interview PGA tour professionals, Hall of Fame Athletes, Rock Star Business Leaders and more. Join Wardo, Jordo and Sully each week on ESPN radio.golfunderground Golf
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  • Inside Tour Life, Club Secrets, and Growing Up Golf with Greg Cesario

    Inside Tour Life, Club Secrets, and Growing Up Golf with Greg Cesario
    Sep 18 2025

    What does it take to grow up in a golf shop, learn the craft of clubmaking, and then battle your way onto professional tours around the world?


    On this episode of Golf Underground, we sit down with Greg Cesario, son of the legendary Mario Cesario, to talk about his journey from Redlands, California to the PGA Tour. Greg opens up about his father’s legacy in club design, his own life as a junior standout and tour pro, and his transition into key roles at Titleist and TaylorMade.


    It’s a mix of heartfelt legacy, tour grit, and equipment insights that every golfer will appreciate.


    Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments


      • Greg Cesario shares memories of working in his father’s golf shop as a kid.
      • The crew digs into Greg’s junior golf career and rise in Southern California.
      • Greg talks about competing on the Asian, South African, and PGA Tours.
      • Stories from his transition from tour player to Titleist rep and club fitter.
      • Insights into wedge design and why the short game separates pros.
      • Emotional reflections on his father’s impact and battle with ALS.
      • Behind-the-scenes life at TaylorMade’s Kingdom.
      • George Brett compares lessons from baseball to Greg’s golf grind.
      • Sully presses Greg on mental toughness from tour life.
      • Wardo and Greg break down equipment myths vs real performance.


    • Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode


      • "I grew up in a golf shop—it was my playground, my classroom, and my future all in one." – Greg Cesario
      • "My dad, Mario Cesario, taught me the craft of clubmaking before I could drive a car." – Greg Cesario
      • "If you can’t wedge it close, you can’t hang on tour." – Greg Cesario
      • "Traveling the Asian and South African Tours taught me resilience more than results." – Greg Cesario
      • "The PGA Tour shows you fast who has grit and who doesn’t." – Brian Sullivan
      • "George knows—just like in baseball, the smallest edge can win the biggest games." – Kevin Ward
      • "Wedges are the most personal club in the bag—your scoring depends on them." – Greg Cesario
      • "Golf is about family as much as it is about fairways." – George Brett
      • "My father’s legacy wasn’t just in clubs—it was in people he touched through the game." – Greg Cesario
      • "You learn more fixing clubs in the back shop than you ever will on YouTube." – Greg Cesario


    • About Greg

      Greg Cesario grew up in his father Mario’s iconic Redlands golf shop, learning clubmaking before he was a teenager. A three-time High School All-American and Arizona State standout, Greg went on to compete on the PGA, Nike, Asian, and South African Tours. After his playing career, he became a leader in equipment innovation at Titleist and TaylorMade, specializing in wedge design, fitting, and player development—all while carrying forward his father’s Hall of Fame legacy.


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  • USA vs Europe: Inside the Ryder Cup Chaos

    USA vs Europe: Inside the Ryder Cup Chaos
    Sep 16 2025

    Is Bethpage Black ready for the loudest Ryder Cup in history?


    The Golf Underground crew—Sully, George, and Wardo—break down the 2025 Ryder Cup with fearless predictions and hilarious storytelling. From the rowdy New York fans to strategy on course setup and unexpected pairings, the guys dive into what it will take for Team USA to hold off a stacked European squad.


    Expect insider chatter about vice captain Gary Woodland, golf-ball matchups that could swing points, and tales of beer-fueled fans that promise Phoenix Open–level chaos.


    Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments

    • George Brett recalls wild fan encounters at past Ryder Cups.

    • Kevin Ward analyzes golf-ball pairings that could impact scoring.

    • Brian Sullivan predicts a New York atmosphere “crazier than the Phoenix Open.”

    • The crew debates whether Europe’s depth can topple the U.S. on home soil.

    • Stories of player calls, captain picks, and emotional team moments set the stage.

    • George shares baseball tricks that parallel Ryder Cup course setup strategies.

    • Wardo explains how the U.S. will tailor Bethpage Black to its bombers.

    • The guys swap Phoenix Open fan chaos stories as a Ryder Cup preview.

    • Insight on Gary Woodland’s vice-captain role and locker-room dynamics.

    • Final predictions on which pairings and personalities will decide the Cup.


    • Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode

      • "Bethpage Black will be Phoenix Open on steroids." – Brian Sullivan

      • "I’ve never seen fans as wild as Ryder Cup fans in New York." – George Brett

      • "Team Europe is deeper from top to bottom—don’t underestimate them." – Kevin Ward

      • "Course setup is strategy, and the U.S. will make Bethpage favor the bombers." – Brian Sullivan

      • "You think you’ll see every shot, but at the Ryder Cup you’re lucky to see four holes." – George Brett

      • "The ball you play matters—spin, launch, everything counts in alternate shot." – Kevin Ward

      • "Gary Woodland’s vice-captain pick brings serious leadership energy." – Brian Sullivan

      • "Drunk Americans and fired-up Europeans? There will be brawls in those stands." – George Brett

      • "If the U.S. wins, it’ll be because the team finally plays as one unit." – Kevin Ward

      • "Ryder Cup golf is pure adrenaline—you feel every shot in your chest." – Brian Sullivan


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  • Zak Brown Tells All: F1 Secrets, Leadership, and the Cost of Winning

    Zak Brown Tells All: F1 Secrets, Leadership, and the Cost of Winning
    Apr 30 2025
    Ever wonder what it takes to run one of the fastest and most elite teams on the planet? On this episode of Golf Underground, the crew welcomes Zak Brown, CEO of McLaren Racing and a true master of speed, sales, and strategy. From chasing Mickey Mantle as a kid to leading a 1,000-person Formula 1 operation, Zak breaks down the mental grind of racing, what separates winners from losers, how to build a culture that elite drivers want to be part of—and how AI, tire tricks, and track-day politics all factor into the future of F1.If you think golf is tough, wait until you hear what goes down on the pit wall.Must-Hear Insights and Key MomentsZak Brown shares how a childhood obsession with Mickey Mantle turned into a global racing empire.The crew cracks up as Zak tells how he dodged trouble and found racing through "the long way around."Zak reveals the behind-the-scenes pressure of leading McLaren’s 1,000-person Formula 1 operation.AI, tire data, and driver instincts collide in a conversation about how F1 teams win—or completely blow it.Zak and Wardo compare the egos of F1 drivers to pro athletes in other sports, and it gets spicy.George Brett wants to know if there’s such a thing as cheating in F1—Zak’s answer doesn’t disappoint.Brian Sullivan digs into leadership: how Zak handles high-performance people under pressure.Zak drops his golf game stat line—including the story behind the best par he’s ever made.The crew dives into Drive to Survive, McLaren’s media rise, and whether F1 fame helps or hurts performance.Final lightning round: Zak faces the Golf Underground Emergency 9 with answers that cover fantasy baseball, leadership, and vintage cars.Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode"The best teams don’t just hire smart people—they build cultures winners want to join." – Zak Brown"If you take one second off mentally in a race car, you're in the wall." – Zak Brown"We’re not guessing out here—Formula 1 is a thousand-person operation." – Zak Brown"AI can’t measure guts. Not yet." – Zak Brown"Winning used to be about money. Now it’s about people." – Zak Brown"In motorsports, you beg for forgiveness, not ask for permission." – Zak Brown"I shot 92 today, but I also made the best par of my life." – Zak Brown"Drivers aren’t just athletes—they’re pilots, boxers, and chess masters in one." – Zak Brown"The best leaders know when to put an arm around the shoulder—and when to kick some ass." – Zak Brown"You're running a Formula 1 team, and still managing a fantasy baseball roster? That’s elite multitasking." – Brian Sullivan"You get more tech in a race car than a spaceship, and still, some guy will blow it on tire strategy." – Kevin Ward"Zak’s out here leading McLaren and still remembers every stat from Mickey Mantle—respect." – George BrettAbout ZakZak Brown is CEO of McLaren Racing, a position to which he was appointed in April 2018 after joining McLaren in November 2016 as Executive Director of McLaren Technology Group. In his role, Zak has overall responsibility for the McLaren Racing organisation, including the strategic direction, operational performance, marketing and commercial development of the McLaren Formula 1 and IndyCar programmes. After a professional racing career in the US and Europe, Zak founded the agency JMI in 1995, which grew to become the largest motorsport marketing agency in the world and was acquired by Chime Communications PLC in 2013 as part of its sports marketing division, CSM. Brown was appointed the company's Chief Executive Officer before joining McLaren. Zak is chairman and co-owner of United Autosports and was a board member of Cosworth Engineering and non-executive chairman of the Motorsport Network. Born and raised in California, Zak lives with his family near McLaren in Surrey, UK.Follow Zak Brown⁠Instagram⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠Facebook⁠X⁠Follow ‘Golf Underground with Wardo, Sully, and George’⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠
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