Getting Real About Race, Gossip & Tension in Christian Spaces

Derek Winkley, musician, writer and music producer, joins Rita Springer for a powerful conversation about music, ministry, and the unspoken tensions in the Christian industry. From his early years playing drums in the Black church to producing worship music across cultural lines, Derek shares his heart on creativity, race, ego, and why he’s determined to end well.

If you're an artist, worshipper, or believer seeking depth, this one's for you. Some things need to be said, even if they make us uncomfortable.

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