From heat pump replacements to smart thermostats with speakers, Nate and John kick off this episode deep in the weeds of homeownership. But don't worry—they quickly pivot to more relevant matters: why nobody understands what marketing actually does, the surprising complexity of MarTech stacks, and whether meeting agendas are just corporate theater.

Along the way, they tackle Red Lobster's youngest CEO, the mystery of an unused gift card, and the revelation that parenting after 6pm is basically a DDoS attack. Plus: an accidental ADHD diagnosis that went unchecked for way too long.

Topics: Product management, marketing misconceptions, meeting culture, Red Lobster turnaround, parenting chaos, ADHD and auditory processing

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What started as a listserv evolved into a 150K+ member community that keeps customers from leaving. Jeni Asaba, Head of Community at Jamf, breaks down how community became their product moat—and why you should stop overthinking and just start.

We dig into platform migrations, measuring what actually matters, and why connecting Apple enthusiasts isn't about selling software. Whether you're building B2B products or trying to figure out community-led growth, this one's packed with practical insights.

Lessons learned: The power of dial-up nostalgia, the mystery of "six-seven," and why spy school erasers were the original DMs.

You can find Jeni here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeni-asaba-1006/

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Ever wonder how things actually get done in a tech company? This week, John and Nate sit down with Jennifer Silvestre, Business Unit Operations Lead at insightsoftware, to decode the art of cross-functional alignment.

Jen shares her journey from market research to becoming a functional chief of staff (even if that's not her official title), and reveals the playbook for getting things done when you don't have direct authority. From "herding cats" across departments to knowing the "beats of the business," she breaks down what it really takes to turn organizational politics into productivity.

Lessons Learned: John worries about AI replacing product managers, Jenn reflects on work-life balance heading into Q4, and Nate discovers that Beethoven (the dog movie) has a deeply disturbing plot.

Jen's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifersilvestre/

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