In this episode of Future Fit Leadership, I sit down with Elliott Dellys — founder and CEO of Phronesis, Australia’s first B Corp-certified cybersecurity firm. A former intelligence officer turned entrepreneur, Elliott is leading a very different kind of security conversation — one grounded not just in technology, but in ethics, leadership, and culture.

Elliott believes cybersecurity is ultimately a people problem — and that the biggest risks we face aren’t just digital, they’re deeply human. From the rise of AI-powered cybercrime to the flawed systems that leave organisations vulnerable, this conversation goes far beyond firewalls.

We explore:

• Why groupthink is one of the most dangerous threats inside modern organisations

• How fear, conformity, and poor leadership compromise security and innovation

• The myth of “hacking” — and what most businesses get wrong about risk

• What it means to build a values-driven company in an industry obsessed with fear

• His bold take on why Australia won’t meet its 2030 cybersecurity goals — and what real progress would look like

Elliott also shares why he donates 10% of profits to social impact, why he built Phronesis around the Greek word for “practical wisdom,” and how philosophy remains his greatest leadership tool.

This is a conversation about courage, systems thinking, and the urgent need for leaders who can think beyond compliance — and lead with conscience.

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What if your brand had a signature scent that made clients feel exactly what you wanted them to feel — trust, luxury, energy, nostalgia?

In this episode of Future Fit Leadership, I sit down with doctors-turned-entrepreneurs Suji and Jeeva, co-founders of BrandScent, the game-changing business behind some of Australia’s most memorable branded fragrances. From maternity leave side hustle to Shark Tank and scent tech innovation, their journey blends science, storytelling, and serious startup grit.

We explore how scent influences behaviour, memory, and brand loyalty — and why scent might just be your most powerful (and overlooked) branding tool.

If you’ve ever said, “This place smells like success,” this episode is for you.

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Sami Makelainen is a global tech expert who’s worked across Finland, North America, and Australia.

With a background in computer science and a passion for understanding how technology shapes society, Sami brings a uniquely human perspective to some of the most complex conversations in tech today.

In this conversation we discuss:

The erosion of critical thinking in the age of AI
Why we should treat AI like a brand-new intern, not a CEO
Shadow AI, organisational risk, and how culture is being reshaped
Quantum computing, ethical tech, and the futures we're not planning for

This is more than just a conversation about emerging technology.
It’s a deep, honest look at how AI is changing leadership, communication, and the decisions that shape our world.

Get ready for a conversation that will challenge your assumptions, stretch your thinking, and reveal why the next decade may be the most transformative in human history.

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