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Fund the People: A Podcast with Rusty Stahl

Fund the People: A Podcast with Rusty Stahl

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The only show that helps YOU invest in the nonprofit workforce! Here you’ll get the ideas, tools, data, and stories you need in order raise or give money to support and develop nonprofit workers and leaders in your organization or your community. This unique podcast invites you into casual, provocative conversations with diverse leaders from foundations, nonprofits, academia, and capacity-building groups. We give you the big picture view, and we dig into specific issues, such as executive transitions, burnout, HR, fundraising for staff, how public policy impacts nonprofit workers, and more. Fund the People is the national organization that works to maximize investments in America's nonprofit workforce. It was founded in 2014 by Rusty Stahl with support from The Kresge Foundation, NYU Wagner, and Tides. We’ve launched the podcast in 2020, and have published over 100 episodes across 8 seasons. We launched a private version of the show on Patreon in 2025. It features community conversations, extended episodes, and a Patreon-only show where Rusty gives you the inside view while getting outside for a walk in New York’s Hudson Valley. Visit patreon.com/fundthepeople.Fund the People Economía Gestión Gestión y Liderazgo
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  • The Value of the U.S. Nonprofit Workforce - with host Rusty Stahl, Fund the People (Part 2 of 3)

    The Value of the U.S. Nonprofit Workforce - with host Rusty Stahl, Fund the People (Part 2 of 3)
    Apr 15 2026

    In this episode, host Rusty Stahl makes the economic case for valuing the nonprofit workforce—nearly 13 million workers powering 10% of the U.S. private workforce. Drawing on fresh data, he reveals how nonprofits create jobs, stabilize communities during crises, and fuel broader economic growth. If policymakers and funders overlook this workforce, they’re missing one of the most significant economic forces in the country.


    This is Part 2 of our 3-part miniseries on the value of the nonprofit workforce! In the first episode of the miniseries, Rusty makes a passionate plea for everyone to discuss the value of the nonprofit workforce, and then addresses how nonprofit workers bring value of their communities. Part 3 of the miniseries will discuss the value of the nonprofit workforce for our democracy.


    Links to Resources:

    • 5 Surprising Facts about the U.S Nonprofit Workforce⁠

    Fund the People on YouTube

    • FTP YouTube Channel
    • Podcast - Audio-Only
    • Podcast - with Video
    • Podcast - Promo Clips

    George Mason University

    • Nonprofit Employment Data (NED) Project
    • Spotlight on Nonprofit Wages (Analysis of nonprofit wages by sub-sector)
    • 2024 Nonprofit Employment Data Report

    • Nonprofit Works Interactive Online Database (use this free to get nonprofit employment data for your state or municipal area, by sub-sector, and comparison to for-profit and govern)

    Relevant Episodes:

    • S9:E12 The Unique Value of the Nonprofit Workforce - Part 1
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  • The Value of the U.S. Nonprofit Workforce - with host Rusty Stahl, Fund the People (Part 1 of 3)

    The Value of the U.S. Nonprofit Workforce - with host Rusty Stahl, Fund the People (Part 1 of 3)
    Apr 8 2026

    “Nonprofit workers are an unspoken part of our social contract.”

    Why do we need to explicitly talk about the value of the nonprofit workforce—especially to people already working within it?

    In this opening episode of a three-part series, Rusty Stahl argues that the nonprofit workforce has long been overlooked in public policy, media narratives, and even within the sector itself. Drawing on insights following Foundations on the Hill 2026, he highlights how nonprofit workers are frequently excluded from major policy debates—even when those policies directly impact their jobs and communities.

    Rusty challenges the dominant “deficit-based” framing of the nonprofit workforce, which focuses on what workers lack, and instead calls for a shift toward an “asset-based” narrative that recognizes the sector’s immense contributions.

    The episode then explores the first dimension of value: community. From meeting basic needs to enabling generosity and envisioning better futures, nonprofit workers are essential to the functioning, resilience, and cohesion of communities across the country.

    In the next episodes of this miniseries:

    • Part 2: The value of the nonprofit workforce to the U.S. economy
    • Part 3: The value of the nonprofit workforce to democracy and liberty

    If this episode resonated with you:

    • Share it with a colleague, funder, or policymaker
    • Leave a review of our show on Apple Podcasts or a comment on Spotify
    • Start conversations in your network about the value of the nonprofit workforce

    Resources & Links

    • Download an edited .pdf transcript of this episode
    • Fund the People: https://fundthepeople.org
    • Email Rusty: rusty@fundthepeople.org

    Related Episodes

    • S9:E11 - The Federal Policy & Propaganda Landscape Facing the Nonprofit Workforce in 2026
    • ⁠S8:E1 - The Trump War on Charity
    • ⁠S7:E4 - Making the Nonprofit Workforce Visible - with Dr. Alan Abrahmson and Chelsea Newhouse, George Mason University⁠
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  • The Federal Policy & Propaganda Landscape Facing the Nonprofit Workforce in 2026 - with host Rusty Stahl, Fund the People

    The Federal Policy & Propaganda Landscape Facing the Nonprofit Workforce in 2026 - with host Rusty Stahl, Fund the People
    Apr 1 2026
    In this episode, you get a firsthand report from "Foundations on the Hill." Rusty discusses emerging federal threats and opportunities for our sector. From new legislation to executive action, he shares what’s at stake for the nonprofit workforce—and why we must engage now to shape the narrative. Download episode⁠ transcriptWatch episode Promo VideoLinks to Information Discussed:Challenges on the HorizonReintroduction of H.R. 9495 (H.R. 6800 and S. 3554):Press Release: ⁠Cornyn, Sheehy Introduce Bill to Revoke Tax-Exempt Status of CAIR, Groups Bankrolling Terrorists⁠ (Senator John Cornyn)⁠Official Text of H.R. 6800⁠⁠Official Text of S. 3554⁠Press Release: ⁠Nonprofit Killer Bill Re-Introduced in the House and Senate⁠ (Charity and Security Network)SPONSOR Act (S. 3942):Press Release: Moran, Cruz Introduce Legislation to Deter Non-Profit Sponsorships of Left-Wing Radicals (Congressman Nathaniel Moran)Official Text of the Bill from congress.govExecutive Actions to Frame & Investigate Nonprofits as Terrorist Supporters:Investigating Nonprofits as Terrorist Supporting Organizations:National Security Presidential Memorandum (NSPM-7) (The White House)Attorney General Memo - “Implementing NSPM-7: Countering Domestic Terrorism and Organized Political Violence - (Office of the Attorney General)FBI and IRS to investigate nonprofit groups for domestic terrorism links, sources say (CBS News)FBI and IRS join forces under Bondi directive (MS Now)How NSPM-7 Seeks to Use "Domestic Terrorism" to Target Nonprofits and Activists (ACLU)Administration imposes ideological bounds on student debt forgiveness for public servants:Overview of Proposed Changes and Updates on PSLF program (National Council of Nonprofits)Finalized Changes and Litigation (National Council of Nonprofits)Education Department Imposes Controversial New Restrictions on Public Service Loan Forgiveness Program (American Association of Universities)Administration pursues ideological litmus test for federal grants:DOGE Takes Over Federal Grant Website (NonProfit Times)Proposed Changes to Federal Grant Portal Could Disrupt Nonprofits and Harm Communities Nationwide (National Council of Nonprofits)Guide to Submitting Public Comments on Changes to Federal Grants Certification (National Council of Nonprofits) Note: public comment period ended 3/30/26. 1,300 nonprofit groups joined the sign-on letter, and 22,000 submitted public comments! Apparently there will be further opportunities to offer public comment, so this info is worth reviewing!Positive DevelopmentsPhilanthropy Caucus Launched in House of Representatives:Press Release from Congressman Blake Moore (DATE)Small Nonprofit Retirement Security Act (H.R. 4548 / S. 2365):Press Release: Buchanan Leads Bipartisan Effort to Help Small Nonprofits Offer Retirement Plans (07/21/25)Official Text of H.R. 4548Official Text of S. 2365Educating Policymakers About the Nonprofit Workforce:Five Surprising Facts About the Nonprofit Workforce (FTP hand-out for Congress)NEW: Johnson Amendment Upheld:Since recording this episode, news arrived that a court has upheld the Johnson Amendment, maintaining nonprofit separation from political campaigns and donationsOrganizations Mentioned in the Episode:Council on FoundationsFoundations on the Hill 2026Fund the PeopleIndependent SectorNational Council of NonprofitsPhilanthropy RoundtableUnited Philanthropy ForumAdditional Links:Council on FoundationsFoundations on the Hill 2026Fund the PeopleIndependent SectorNational Council of NonprofitsPhilanthropy RoundtableUnited Philanthropy ForumRelated Episodes:Peaceful Terrorists and Violent Activists (S9:E1, January 2026)The Trump War on Charity (S8:E1, September 2025)Mr. Stahl Goes to Washington (S7:E13, March 2025)Nonprofits Made America (S7:E11, February 2025)Related Playlists:Defend Nonprofits, Defend Democracy Series PlaylistHost-Only Episodes PlaylistRusty’s Rants and Reflections Playlist
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