We got some Cali boys in the house! Nikolos Killian and Tanner Woodbury are Founders and Creative Directors at Forth+Back, the Los Angeles-based cross-disciplinary creative studio. Their work spans from creative direction and identity design, art direction and photography, to all levels of print and digital design. They’ve worked with Apple, The Athletic, Chipotle, Netflix, NFL, Nike, Sotheby's, and many others. They’ve launched some of our favorite personal projects, like the book Dreams of New York and the Football zine Spiral. Nik and Tanner are leading awesome, thoughtful, and beautiful work in a variety of different industries. We had a great conversation about their humble beginnings, doing personal projects to attract the clients they wanted to work for, they shared some of their new and upcoming work, and more! These dudes rock, enjoy the show!

Alex and Kevin are here with a BANGER. Coming off the long weekend, refreshed and reenergized, the fellas discuss everything going on, which is dominated by fitness and nutrition stories in a sort of new year, new me energy. They talk about the new food pyramid by the National Design Studio, The Sweetgreen Function Menu, Equinox’s question everything but yourself campaign, David’s Bronze campaign, the Prime Protein Shake, The Beyond Protein Drink, Graza's mayo launch, Honda’s updated logo, and more!

Today, we are thrilled to welcome Leland Maschmeyer to the show! Leland is the Co-Founder and CEO of COLLINS, the globally renowned design firm. He was formerly the Chief Creative and Brand Officer at Chobani, where he led its brand relaunch, portfolio expansion, and marketing transformation. He was named a Young Global Leader by the World Economic Forum alongside many other impressive people. Leland is also a podcaster, co-hosting Hitmakers with Ana Andjelic.

We had an enlightening conversation with Leland. We talk about the future of creativity and commerce, the Collins origin story, designing Spotify's brand, leaving for Chobani and the great work he led there, coming back to take Collins into the future, and more! Enjoy!