If you’ve ever wondered how to get paid for the true value you bring to a company through campaigns they run year after year – and long after you write the initial copy → you need to hear from one of the GOATs, Kim Krause Schwalm. In this case-study-style episode, Kim lets us in on what went on behind the scenes as she grew from an in-house employee to a highly successful and sought-after copywriter in the industry, sitting in rooms with people like Eugene Schwartz and other greats. Not only that, but Kim walks us through her personal methodology for testing ‘controls’ and trying to beat your own copy - ultimately increasing the value you bring to the table with every client who hires you.

If you’re a copywriter curious about how to negotiate royalties into your contracts and get paid on a whole new level, this episode of the Freedom Found Copywriter Podcast is an absolute must-listen.

Tune in To Learn:

• What a ‘Control’ is in Copywriting and why you should be testing yours asap
• How to negotiate royalties with big & small clients
• The best way for Copywriters to get hired, even in the face of AI
• How Kim Krause Schwalm mastered her craft, client relations, and career as a copywriter

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If you’re a copywriter or freelance copywriter who feels behind on your yearly planning already — or like your 2026 is not yet going according to plan — this episode is for you.

Annual planning for copywriters doesn’t have to involve taking on as many clients as possible or burning yourself out on social media. And it definitely doesn’t have to involve a 20-tab spreadsheet you never look at again.

In this episode, I’m breaking down how I plan my year as a copywriter, what I focused on first, and how I make business decisions that support consistent clients, steady income, and actual breathing room in my copywriting business.

This is for copywriters who want to improve how they’re operating as a business owner - only listen in if that’s you!

✨ Mentioned in this episode:

→ Join Juno, our membership for copywriters who want support with client acquisition, scalable offers, and long-term business growth for just $175/mo: https://krystlechurch.com/juno

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Tune in To Learn:

• How I approach annual business planning as a copywriter
• What freelance copywriters should plan before setting revenue goals
• How I structure my year around client acquisition, not hustle
• Why flexibility matters more than perfect plans in a copywriting freelance business
• How to reset your year if January didn’t go the way you hoped

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You've raised your copywriting prices. You’re showing up. You’re sending proposals. But instead of clients saying yes, you keep hearing:

“It’s too expensive.”

“I need to think about it.”

“Now’s not the right time.”

If this has you questioning your worth, your rates, or your entire sales process—you are not alone. These are normal objections copywriters hear at every stage of business. The key is learning how to decode them instead of internalizing them.

In this episode, we’ll unpack why these price objections aren’t always what they seem—and how to respond in a way that strengthens your positioning instead of costing your copywriting business clients.

Tune in To Learn:

• What the most common pricing objections really signal (hint: it’s rarely about the money)
• Why “too expensive” usually means unclear value—or misaligned audience
• How to handle “I need to think about it” without chasing or discounting
• The deeper mindset and messaging work freelance copywriters need to close high-quality clients with more ease

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✨ Mentioned in this episode:

→ Get clarity with your personal 1:1 Offer Suite & Pricing Alignment Session with Krystle Church. DM her on Instagram or LinkedIn for info!

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