Former CNN President Tom Johnson

Even after Jimmy Kimmel returned to air, President Trump spoke of launching new legal action against ABC. Former CNN President Tom Johnson helped shape the legacy media landscape and had a front-row seat to many defining moments of the late twentieth century. He speaks to Christiane about his new book "Driven: A Life in Public Service and Journalism from LBJ to CNN" and the state of media today. Also on today's show: painter Adam Cvijanovic; author Fara Dabhoiwala ("What Is Free Speech?") Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices