In this episode, Bruce meets with Patricia Egger a.k.a. the Goddess of Security at Proton, for an insightful conversation about privacy, encryption, and what it truly means to build a safer and better web.

The conversation covers the security mindset, the real risks behind AI and “shadow AI,” how small vulnerabilities can escalate into major breaches, and why email and password management are critical foundations of digital security. Patricia also shares practical advice on helping non-technical users improve their privacy, emphasising that progress matters more than perfection.

If you care about protecting your digital life, or want to help friends and family do the same, this episode is for you. Listen now, rethink your security habits, and take your first step toward a more private web.

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Proton - https://proton.meAnother episode with

Andy Yen from Proton - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndlCMGxLQ38&pp=0gcJCaIKAYcqIYzv

Proton VPN on Vivaldi - https://vivaldi.com/protonvpn/

Jón and Bruce reflect on the year in tech - what happened with browser choice, Big Tech's grip on the market, AI everywhere, and why they think independent browsers matter. They also share their favorite Vivaldi features and why browsers should work for you, not the other way around.

Show notes:

• Ten years of making new friends by building a browser for you, not Big Tech
• Jon von Tetzchner – For a Better Web 2024 review
• Apple Opens iOS to Developers in Japan
• Y Combinator urges the White House to support Europe’s Digital Markets Act
• Vivaldi takes a stand: keep browsing human
• “A.I.” browsers: the price of admission is too high
• Parliament must buy European IT, lawmakers tell Metsola

Bruce chats with Andy Yen, founder and CEO of Proton, about what it’s like for a European company to take on Big Tech. Andy shares his journey from leaving CERN as a particle physicist to building one of the most trusted privacy-focused companies in the world.

He breaks down the lies behind VPN marketing, why most companies can't be trusted, and how Apple and Google's 30 percent tax inflates your bills. He also explains Europe’s trillion-dollar tech mistake.

From VPN myths to Swiss privacy laws, European tech independence, antitrust politics, and Proton’s plan to tackle tariffs and Big Tech taxes, this episode is an umbrella drink filled to the brim with hot topics you’ll want to sip all summer long.

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Show notes:

• Proton on X/Twitter

• DH Lawrence's Relativity poem

• Simon Migliano, Top10VPN

• Proton Foundation

• Swiss ordinance

• Proton threatens to quit Switzerland over new surveillance law

• Gail Slater, The Woman Leading the Surging MAGA Antitrust Movement

• A judge just blew up Apple's control of the App Store

• EuroStack

• The First Three Minutes

• Double Hidden Charm Tetraquark