Fogarty shortlister Jessica Baker asks whether we can outrun our own minds

In Out There, In Here, Jessica Baker explores whether we can solve our internal problems by being ‘out there’. In this fascinating conversation she and Katherine Allum discuss the fantasy of escaping the day-to-day vs its reality, and bond over writing manuscripts in the in-between spaces of expat London. Tune in here or on your favourite podcast app to find out more. Show notes About Jessica Jessica Baker (she/her) is a writer based in Kununurra, WA. Her work explores abstract concepts like consent and love, and the intricacies of human emotion. She commenced her career as a journalist in 2020, […]