Personal growth is beautiful — until it’s not. In this episode, Andrew and Cat talk about the hidden fatigue that comes with healing, self-development, and “always improving.” They unpack why the messy middle is normal, why growth never really ends, and how to rest without guilt.

• Growth is cyclical, not linear. You’re not failing — you’re just in a different season.
• The messy middle matters. No one talks about the “in-between” years where progress feels invisible.
• Fatigue is feedback, not failure. Your body and mind need recovery as much as your muscles do.
• Judgment makes it worse. Beating yourself up for being human delays your healing.
• Rest is part of growth. Pausing helps new habits take root.

1️⃣ Redefine success. There’s no “finish line” to personal growth. It’s a lifelong practice.

2️⃣ Accept regression as recalibration. Two steps forward, one pizza back (as Andrew says). It’s all part of the process.

3️⃣ Track what you did, not what you missed. Cat’s “reverse to-do list” builds perspective and gratitude.

4️⃣ Beware the comparison trap. Everyone has a different deck of cards — focus on your own hand.

5️⃣ Switch it up. If your routines feel heavy, try a new form of movement, journaling, or rest.

6️⃣ Recognize seasons. Some months are for pushing forward; others are for digesting what you’ve learned.

• Constant fatigue or mental fog
• Loss of joy in “self-care” routines
• Guilt for resting or taking breaks
• Feeling like nothing is ever enough

• Write a “done list” instead of a to-do list.
• Take micro-breaks during the day — stillness counts.
• Build seasonal awareness: winter = rest, spring = renewal.
• Remind yourself: “I am not behind. I’m evolving.”

• Cat: A golden fall day in Chicago — crisp air, bright sun, and a long peaceful walk. 🍂
• Andrew: Cozy weekend show (“Nobody Wants This”) — proof that slowing down can feel just as good as achieving.

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Ever been told you’re “not fun” or “too serious”? Andrew and Cat unpack what fun actually means — and why chasing other people’s version of it leaves you drained. This episode helps you redefine fun on your own terms, whether that means karaoke nights or coloring budget charts.

• Fun got complicated. It used to be sticks and puddles; now it’s overpriced trips and curated weekends.
• There’s a bias toward extroverts. The world rewards loud, social fun — but quiet joy counts too.
• Authenticity = happiness. True fun begins when you do what genuinely lights you up, not what’s “supposed to.”
• Stop “should-ing” your joy. You don’t owe anyone attendance at events that drain you.

1️⃣ Define your fun. What genuinely delights you — not what looks fun to others?

2️⃣ Drop guilt. Rest and relaxation are productive; joy refuels creativity.

3️⃣ Practice authenticity. Say “no” to misaligned plans; say “yes” to what feels right.

4️⃣ Four ingredients of fun:

• Freedom – Do things with no outcome attached.
• Presence – Be here, not in your head.
• Connection – Lose track of time with people or passions that sync with you.
• Expression – Let the real you show up (no armor, no performance).
• 5️⃣ Replace FOMO with ROMO (Relief of Missing Out). Enjoy skipping the plans you never wanted anyway.
• 6️⃣ Audit your joy. When was the last time you lost track of time? Start there.

• “Suffering through someone else’s fun is still suffering.”
• “Fun doesn’t have to be expensive, impressive, or loud.”
• “When you say no to what drains you, you say yes to what fills you.”
• “Joy lives in small pockets — coffee chats, thrift hunts, puppy cuddles.”

• Try a joy audit: list five activities that make you feel alive.
• Add micro-fun moments — a walk, a playlist, a puzzle, or your favorite meal.
• Revisit childhood joy: What did little-you love? Can you bring that back now?
• Find your people: When you’re authentically yourself, the right friends appear.

• Cat: Fully funded her emergency fund after years of work — and found joy in tracking the goal.
• Andrew: Traveling to England with his daughter and seeing her reaction to Big Ben for the first time — pure magic.

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Feeling stuck, numb, or like the light went out? Andrew and Cat talk about rebuilding hope—without toxic positivity. You’ll learn why hope is a brain-and-body shift (not a mood), what quietly erodes it, and small, doable steps to feel a spark again.

• Hope ≠ denial. It accepts reality and imagines a different future.
• Your brain likes anticipation. Even the thought that “this can get better” gives a healthy dopamine lift.
• Grief comes first. Feel it to free it. Then take one gentle step forward.
• Stories shape state. Borrow hope from people who’ve pushed through setbacks.

1. One good thing prompt: On waking, ask: “Why is today going to be great?” Name one simple thing (first coffee, a walk, clean sheets).
2. Anchor to the present: 3 slow breaths + notice 3 things you can see/hear/feel.
3. Borrow hope: Read or listen to a perseverance story (dating later in life, 52nd lender said yes, etc.).
4. Move a little: Sunlight on your face, a 10-minute walk, stretch by a window.
5. Purpose pebble: Do one small helpful act—smile at a neighbor, text a check-in, hold the door.
6. Future-you assist: Ask, “What tiny thing would future me thank me for tonight?” Then do just that.

• “Maybe there’s more for me.”
• “I’ve done hard things before; I can do hard things again.”
• “I only need a spark, not the full lighthouse.”

• Chronic stress, disappointment, self-blame → Practice self-compassion; feel feelings, don’t camp there.
• Doom-scrolling, heavy inputs → Curate feeds toward light, learning, and real connection.
• No direction → Choose a tiny purpose for today (make one person smile).

• Cat: The pure joy of petting the wiggliest puppy—five minutes of instant hope.
• Andrew: Morning sun + saying “good morning” on a short walk—connection lifts everyone.

You’re not alone, and help is available 24/7. If you think you might act on thoughts of self-harm, seek immediate help:

• United States & Canada: Call or text 988 (Suicide & Crisis Lifeline).
• United States (text): Text HOME to 741741 (Crisis Text Line).
• Canada (call): 1-833-456-4566; text 45645 (Talk Suicide Canada, evenings).
• United Kingdom & ROI: 116 123 (Samaritans).
• Australia: 13 11 14 (Lifeline).
• Emergency: Call your local emergency number (911 / 999 / 112) if you’re in immediate danger.

If you’re outside these regions, contact your local health services or search for your country’s suicide prevention hotline.

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We’re glad you’re here. Keep going—one small step, one spark at a time.