This week, Simon & Rachel get gloriously uncomfortable.

It’s a rollicking debate with sharp edges, full-throttle disagreement in part, and one very live question who’s it actually worth arguing with anymore?

Simon’s just back from the Battle of Ideas, where he shared space with people he vehemently disagrees with and has mixed feelings as a result. Rachel, on the other hand, reckons the whole thing’s just too right-wing for her vibe, recognising she may be reinforcing her own biases, and worries about the reputational risk of legitimising certain viewpoints. So, it’s a conversation of the wrestle with our own tensions about who to talk to about when and when.

Is the real dividing line today Left versus Right or liberals versus authoritarians, on both sides?

And what if, whisper it, the Right might actually be right that Britain’s true clash is between the elite and the people?

New research from More in Common and Arch 10 reveals just how out of touch the progressive and public-sector “elites”, including many driving diversity and inclusion, have become from the wider public, especially on sex, gender, patriotism, and free speech.

Battle of Ideas had everything: a panel on the Supreme Court judgment, disbelief that trans people even exist, a tweet labelling DEI “a virus,” and yet a surprisingly diverse audience and a bromance brewing between Simon and Andrew Doyle in over Simon’s taste in coloured couture.

In the end, the duo agrees on one thing: it’s time to move past the culture wars.

What we need are Fearless Diversity gatherings with rosé, civility, and the courage to disagree well. Who wants to join us?

Fearless Diversity where nuance still has the mic.

RESOURCES

Arch10 “Two Britains”

https://shorturl.at/TC89q

More in Common – “Progressive Activists”

https://shorturl.at/eLwW6

Battle of Ideas

https://www.battleofideas.org.uk/

Ben Cooper (one of the KCs who represented in the Supreme Court) explainer on the Supreme Court judgement in For Women Scotland

https://shorturl.at/0QRCX

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Fearless Diversity: Identity, Civility, and the Courage to Disagree

At a time when public debate feels less like dialogue and more like a contest over whose feelings matter most, Simon and Rachel take a breath, and a stand, for nuance, empathy, and civility.

Because identity whether shaped by sex, gender, class, ethnicity, or belief has become both the lens through which we see the world and, too often, the wall that divides us.

In this episode, they explore what happens when politics becomes a battle of tribes rather than a search for solutions. From the far-reaching debates at the recent FiLiA conference, Europe’s largest feminist gathering, to boardrooms wrestling with diversity data, the same question runs through it all: how do we honour difference without hardening into division?

Rachel argues that class still defines how women experience both oppression and opportunity, and Simon challenges the orthodoxy of identity politics itself. Together, they unpack how leaders can use diversity data not as a flag to wave but as a lens for understanding asking, what are we really trying to learn here?

Because perhaps, in an age of permanent outrage, the most radical act isn’t shouting louder it’s listening better.

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Resources:

FILIA. https://www.filia.org.uk/

Fire Service Black Members - National Conference 2025 https://shorturl.at/A92tV

Black Excellence in Governance https://shorturl.at/lHFn3

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Recorded on Tuesday 7 October 2025, this episode confronts the murders at Heaton Park on Yom Kippur and the sharp rise in antisemitism in the UK. We name the harm plainly and we hold the line between free speech and incitement.

We don’t posture; we do the hard work of sense-making. We explore why silence from institutions and politicians corrodes trust, how slogan-chanting lands as eradication to Jewish citizens, and why leaders must support protest rights clearly and also enforce the law on incitement consistently, not selectively. We acknowledge parallel harms, including arson at a Sussex mosque and the daily experience of British Muslims facing prejudice. But we don’t take refuge in the false comfort of “whataboutery”.

This is a practical conversation for people who run things CEOs, headteachers, council leaders, community organisers. We offer three commitments you can enact now:

1. Curiosity with backbone: seek understanding across difference without surrendering facts. Try to find agreement not just disagreement.

2. Even-handed moral clarity: condemn antisemitism and Islamophobia without purity tests or exemptions.

3. Local dialogue, real guardrails: create forums where disagreement is safe, and incitement is not.

4. In everyday conversation commit to civility – only ever try to explore and at best convince but not to win.

Not virtue. Not theatre. Leadership. We have the conversation you want to. Please do listen, like and share.

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