In Episode 8 of this season on ‘Making Things Happen: Churches, Charities and Money’, Simon and Bex discuss ways in which faith can be put before finance so that vision is turned into provision for churches and charities.

Some key points of interest covered in this episode include the following:

• Bex and Simon introduce the topic of vision and provision in church and charity work, noting from the outset that there is a crucial balance that needs to be struck between having faith and being realistic about financial matters. [00:34] Bex gives some biblical examples to illustrate the fact that God provides for his people in many different ways, sometimes through quite unexpected means. [02:45]
• Simon uses his own experience as a church trustee to highlight the key principle of identifying the individual responsibilities that people undertake, observing that this will lead them to weigh faith and finance elements differently from those who fill other roles within a church or charity. [03:31] Simon then develops the point, suggesting that it can be helpful to recognise that complementary contributions can be made by those who are very good at managing money and those who are very good at using money. [05:49]
• In response to a question from Bex, Simon talks about the type of discernment that is needed to deal with circumstances in which there is a gap between the scope and vision for a project and the current level of provision. [07:05]
• By inviting listeners to put themselves into the position of someone appealing for money to support a vision, Simon highlights the importance of engagement from those who are responsible for the finances of a church or charity; otherwise, important opportunities can be missed or watered down. [10:37]
• There is a balance to be struck between holding the resources that God has provided lightly and appreciating what has been entrusted to us so that we are diligent and responsible in the ways that we use those resources. [13:22]
• Simon describes ways in which the issues associated with operating a church or charity budget can be tackled, with a structured approach, oversight, discernment, flexibility and good communication being key factors. [15:35]
• There are also legal requirements that have to be fulfilled, so Simon speaks about ways in which a good working relationship can be built up with the charity regulator. [18:22]
• In order to exercise due diligence, there needs to be a plan for bringing a charity to an end, if need be. Simon explains some steps that can be taken to accommodate that possibility. [20:12]
• Responding to a question from Bex, Simon explains how charities can borrow money, for example by taking out a mortgage. [21:45]
• Simon concludes by praying for those already involved in charitable work and also for those with a vision to be involved in activity of that nature in the future. [23:42]
• Bex invites listeners to get in touch with their questions and also with stories about their own experiences of charity and finance. Up next will be a bonus episode, airing in a few weeks’ time, in which Malcolm Webb, a church accountant, will share his experiences of balancing faith and finance on a daily basis. [24:58]

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