Sarah Mole was the BBC Panorama producer that Mike came to know through her work on their two scientology episodes. In the first, Mike was a spokesman for the cult, in the second, he was a whistleblower. Sarah talks about what impressions Scientology and Mike made on her and the strange journey they have traveled from antagonists to friends.

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Breaking down the facts that have now been revealed proving scientology was lying (and KNEW it) when they claimed Leah Remini and Mike Rinder had "incited" the murder of a scientology security guard in Australia in 2019. They had ALL the facts, but until now, they had remained secret. Their brazen lying relied on the documents that have now come to light never being public.

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Valerie shares about her time in the Guardian's Office, learning what Hubbard wrote about espionage, and then putting this into practice as a spy employed in the Los Angeles office of the FBI. We also talk about her interactions with L. Ron Hubbard, Mary Sue and Diana.

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