What if the Holidays are Hard?

In this heartfelt episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings dive into the complex emotional terrain of the holiday season. While Christmas and Thanksgiving are often painted as joyful and magical, they acknowledge that for many, the holidays bring up grief, loneliness, and the ache of change. Whether it's a first Christmas without a loved one, a tradition lost to transition, or a general feeling of disconnection, this episode reminds listeners that they're not alone—and that presence often speaks louder than words.

Michael and SJ share vulnerable stories about their own shifting holiday experiences, from quiet moments in Marco Island to family members moving away. They explore the tension between honoring old traditions and stepping into new ones, and how to navigate this "liminal space" with empathy and courage. Rather than fixing others or offering shallow cheer, they invite us to show up with compassion—doing the dishes, offering silence, or simply asking, "Would it help to talk?"

The episode includes practical encouragement for those supporting others through a hard season, as well as a reminder: we're all walking each other home. Whether you're grieving, reflecting, or just feeling the weight of the season, this conversation offers space to breathe and a gentle nudge toward connection, healing, and hope.

We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us!

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What makes a gift meaningful?

In this heartwarming holiday episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings unpack the deeper meaning behind giving and receiving gifts. What makes a present truly meaningful? It's not the price tag—but the story, the thought, and the heart behind it. From a toy fire truck that honored a man's courageous past to a miniature Jeep gifted with intention and love, the guys share personal stories that point to something deeper: presence.

The conversation explores why personalized gifts hit differently—because they tell someone, I see you, I remember you, and you matter. But Michael and SJ also acknowledge the tension many feel during this season—depression, grief, unmet expectations—and how practicing presence can bring hope, healing, and joy even in hard times. They talk about how being attentive, listening well, and remembering someone's story opens the door to giving relationally, not just materially.

Whether you're a last-minute shopper or someone who curates gifts all year long, this episode invites you to slow down and consider how the best gifts flow from being present to God and others.

We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us!

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Start With Story: Vision, Brotherhood & Guardrails in Men's Ministry

In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson, SJ Jennings, and Josh Overton close out the Men's Ministry series with a conversation rooted in one of the most important elements of group life: story. They unpack how storytelling builds trust, catalyzes connection, and anchors the culture of a men's group far more than curriculum ever could.

The team shares about the necessity of starting with a clear vision—three simple words like adventure, growth, or journey—and how this clarity helps shape expectations, engagement, and outcomes. They talk through the importance of creating group "guardrails," those unspoken (or even better, written) agreements that establish safety, rhythm, and mutual care within the group.

The episode also includes guidance on how to communicate expectations clearly, how to introduce new members to your group's heartbeat, and how facilitators can foster an atmosphere where men feel free to share honestly without pressure to perform. Whether you're navigating group dynamics, coaching a co-leader, or looking to reinvigorate a tired format, this conversation offers actionable insight and encouragement.

If you've ever wrestled with how to go deeper than surface-level discussion or how to steward momentum in a men's group, this one's for you. The hosts also extend an invitation to join the upcoming Zoweh Allies Roundtable on December 10th, where you can connect with like-hearted leaders, share ideas, and get equipped to launch or lead with confidence.

We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us!

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Men's Ministry That Heals, Not Just Helps.

In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson, SJ Jennings, and Josh Overton continue the series on men's ministry, diving deep into the practicalities of leading and sustaining groups built around connection, brotherhood, and the heart. They unpack how to lead a men's group that isn't driven by curriculum or performance but by knowing and being known—where the goal is relationships, not checkboxes.

The conversation highlights how rhythms of gathering matter: weekly or bi-weekly meetings of 90–120 minutes, intentional midweek communication, and the importance of flexibility in content and structure. Whether it's gathering for a book discussion or breaking away to address real-life battles, the facilitators emphasize a culture of grace, safety, and presence.

They share their own group experiences, including long-term friendships forged through consistent time together—like Fourth of July parties, fishing trips, and long-form Monday night meetups. Leadership isn't about being the expert; it's about stewarding space and fostering brotherhood. The need for a "co-pilot" or secondary leader is highlighted as a game-changer for sustainability and care.

Listeners are encouraged to evaluate the culture they want to create and the role they're playing in helping men discover more life, more love, and more freedom. The episode closes with a call to join the Zoweh Allies Roundtable on December 10th—an open Zoom event for men who want to launch or grow something meaningful in their communities.

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Starting Something That Lasts

What if launching a men's group was less about curriculum and more about culture?

In this episode of the Exploring More Podcast, Michael Thompson, SJ Jennings, and Josh Overton continue their deep-dive into the world of men's ministry. Building on years of experience, they offer practical insights for those looking to start or strengthen a gathering of men rooted in connection, trust, and transformation.

The conversation covers everything from establishing a clear culture (hint: "vulnerability" might not be your best word) to navigating existing church dynamics with humility and discernment. They emphasize the importance of starting small, defining clear expectations, and focusing more on friendship than function. Listeners are reminded that success isn't found in numbers or programs—it's in creating a safe space where men can be seen, heard, and known.

If you're beginning a group, reimagining one, or mentoring others to lead, this episode offers valuable guardrails and encouragement to build something that lasts.

We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us!

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From Good Men to Loved Men

What if the real invitation of men's ministry isn't to be better, but to be loved?

In this episode of the Exploring More Podcast, Michael Thompson, Josh Overton, and SJ Jennings take an honest look at the past, present, and future of men's ministry. They reflect on the shift from performance-based models of discipleship, service, and behavior modification to a new frontier—intimacy with God and the journey of becoming a beloved son.

From fragile beginnings to lasting impact, the conversation explores what it takes to build spaces where men can be vulnerable, known, and free. The guys share stories from the field, the power of starting small, and how brotherhood and story are essential to healing. Whether you're leading a group, exploring a calling, or simply hungry for more, this episode will encourage you to trade striving for sonship.

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Unplugging from the Matrix: Spiritual Training for Real Life

In this episode of the Exploring More Podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings dive into the metaphor-rich world of The Matrix to explore how spiritual training transforms our ability to live with power, love, and freedom. Just like Neo needed to learn the rules of the system, believers must become aware of the unseen battle between good and evil—and train accordingly.

Drawing from personal stories, Scripture (like Galatians 5), and scenes from The Matrix, they challenge listeners to discern spiritual reality, recognize enemy tactics, and lean into the guidance of the Trinity. This episode is a call to vigilance, spiritual growth, and choosing to walk in the authority and identity we've been given.

Whether you're facing internal "agents" of fear, shame, or distraction, or learning to discern the voice of the Spirit, this episode reminds you: training isn't optional—it's essential.

We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us!

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The Heart of the Story: Why Everything Flows from the Inside Out

In this episode of the Exploring More Podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings unpack the central role of the heart in the spiritual life. Drawing from Scripture, theology, and personal experience, they explore how the heart is not just symbolic—it's the seat of belief, perception, and transformation.

Referencing The Wizard of Oz and the Tin Man's search for a heart, they reflect on why the heart matters so much in our stories, and why it's often misunderstood. Is it wicked? Is it good? The answer is complex—but critical.

They dig into what it means to live "life from the heart," the lies that often corrupt our core beliefs, and the role of the Holy Spirit in healing and restoration. With practical next steps and recommended resources like Search and Rescue, this episode is an invitation to begin inspecting, guarding, and transforming your heart—because that's where life really starts.

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