Welcome back to the Evolved Radio Podcast! Today, I’ve got a really fun and insightful episode lined up for you. Dustin Puryear and I are diving into the “Peter Principle.” that all-too-familiar scenario where someone keeps getting promoted for being good at your job, but eventually land in a role where you’re suddenly feeling out of your depth.

We chat about the common traps people fall into on the career ladder, why owners and managers struggle to let go, and how the difference between delegation, abdication, and micromanagement shapes the success of your team.

Plus, we’ll dig into practical advice around KPIs (you know I love talking dashboards), the most common mistake managers make when promoting team members, and even some hard-won lessons from the front lines—including what happens when someone has the courage to step down from a role that isn’t the right fit.

Whether you’re thinking about your own career path, building a team, or just love some good management strategy, this episode is packed with practical takeaways you can start using today.

Let’s jump in!

Today I’m excited to bring you a really insightful conversation with Brian Lagran. Brian brings nearly two decades of experience running an MSP that specializes in co-managed IT services, particularly in complex and regulated industries like healthcare and manufacturing.

In this episode, Brian and I get into the nitty-gritty of co-managed IT. What it means, why it’s not just for large enterprises, and how his team lives and breathes this model for clients, unexpectedly in rural markets.

We dive into the real challenges and opportunities of working alongside internal IT teams, what makes for a successful partnership, and some lessons learned from both our journeys in the MSP space.

Whether you’re an MSP looking to branch into co-managed services or looking to improve your co-managed offering, you’ll get a ton of actionable insights from this conversation.

This episode is brought to you by Opsleader Pro. A place for MSP owners and managers to get the systems and tools they need to build a stable and growing MSP. Part group coaching, part peer group, everything you need to run a successful MSP.

Welcome back to the Evolved Radio Podcast! In today’s episode, I’m joined by Anup Ghosh with Threatmate. Anup and I deep dive into one of the MSP industry’s hottest—and sometimes most confusing—topics: cybersecurity. But instead of focusing on the aftermath of a security incident (what they call “right of the boom”), we shift the conversation to proactive measures—what it really means to operate “left of the boom.”

We unpack the concept of security as a utility, discuss how to utilize NIST and CIS frameworks, and explore fear-based selling.

This episode is packed with insights that will help you strengthen your security posture before disaster strikes. So listen in to stay ahead of the next big threat.

This episode is brought to you by Opsleader Pro. A place for MSP owners and managers to get the systems and tools they need to build a stable and growing MSP. Part group coaching, part peer group, everything you need to run a successful MSP.