In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Frank von Hippel—physicist, diplomat, policy-maker, architect of disarmament treaties, and co-founder of Princeton’s Program on Science and Global Security. One of the most influential voices in the history of nuclear arms control, von Hippel worked hand-in-hand with Soviet scientists to reduce the nuclear arsenals of both countries. He’s sounding the alarm about the state of nuclear diplomacy today. Von Hippel explains what’s at stake when policymaking loses its scientific foundation—and how to rebuild.

Von Hippel reflects on a career spent navigating the space between scientific expertise and geopolitical brinkmanship: from citizen-driven movements that helped shift U.S. nuclear posture in the 1980s, to negotiating with Gorbachev, to the ongoing dangers posed by nuclear modernization and renewed great-power rivalry. Von Hippel shows us not only how policy changes happen, but how fragile progress can be.

The conversation touches on the great questions of today’s nuclear landscape. What does deterrence theory assume about human behavior? How do weapons labs think about nuclear testing? Why has China altered its long-held posture of nuclear minimalism? And what does it mean to rebuild a knowledge-based policy system in an era of deep political polarization?

Von Hippel also discusses the vulnerabilities of civilian nuclear power systems, lessons from Fukushima, and the long, troubled legacy of plutonium reprocessing—an issue that continues to shape global nuclear security debates far beyond the weapons complex.

This episode is a reminder that experts, citizens, and institutions all play a role in reducing nuclear dangers. Progress has never been inevitable—but neither is backsliding. As von Hippel notes, periods of cynicism and misinformation have historically been followed by stronger public engagement and reform. The task now is to stay engaged long enough for that next turn.

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Timestamps

00:00 – The return of Cold War–era tensions and the shrinking space for science-based policymaking

02:18 – Indiscriminate deregulation and the challenge for the next generation of scientist-advocates

05:22 – Star Wars, ballistic missile defense, and how scientists reshaped U.S.–Soviet perceptions of nuclear war

09:54 – Behind the scenes: von Hippel’s advisory role with Gorbachev and the push for a nuclear test moratorium

13:39 – The road to the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty and why testing still matters today

16:40 – Deterrence theory, risks of accidental war, and whether nuclear weapons are truly necessary for stability

20:57 – China’s evolving nuclear posture and the complexities of three-way deterrence

25:55 – No-first-use policy debates and how U.S. allies shape American nuclear doctrine

27:46 – Civilian nuclear power: Fukushima lessons, regulatory capture, and spent-fuel vulnerabilities

33:35 – Plutonium reprocessing, proliferation risks, and the political economy of nuclear waste

Bonus Content for All Subscribers: Frank von Hippel on Family Legacy, the Manhattan Project, and Becoming a Citizen-Scientist

In this extended conversation, von Hippel shares a personal account of his grandfather’s role in the Manhattan Project—and how earlier experience with chemical weapons shaped his views on the moral obligations of scientists. He reflects on his own path from particle physics to public policy during the Vietnam War, and the rise of student-driven scientific activism that helped reshape congressional and executive science advising. These stories offer a rare, intimate look at how individual scientists navigate the responsibilities that come with knowledge and influence.

Annelise Riles speaks with historian Elisabeth Roehrlich about the origins, evolution, and modern challenges of the International Atomic Energy Agency. Together they explore how the IAEA balances its dual mandate to promote civilian nuclear technologies while preventing the spread of nuclear weapons, and why its work remains both technical and deeply political. Roehrlich offers historical insight into today’s debates over inspections, nuclear safety, and the future of the global nonproliferation system.

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For most Americans, nuclear weapons live in the abstract: Cold War history, distant threats, geopolitical chess pieces. But for New Mexicans, the legacy of the atomic age is not theoretical, it’s lived, inherited, and ongoing. In this episode of Everyday Ambassador, we speak with Jay Coghlan, executive director of Nuclear Watch New Mexico, about the deep and often invisible impacts that eight decades of nuclear development have had on the state and its people.

Coghlan has spent 30 years working on nuclear policy. The conversation moves from the early days of the Manhattan Project to present-day policy debates, from the lived trauma of uranium miners to the moral and strategic contradictions of modern nuclear modernization.

Coghlan begins where the modern nuclear era began: Los Alamos and the Trinity Test of 1945. He recounts how New Mexican communities, Indigenous, Hispanic, rural, became unwitting subjects of the world’s first atomic experiment. Downwinders, ranching families, the Mescalero Apache, and displaced homesteaders were all affected, yet ignored for generations. Compensation, where granted at all, came far too late and in far too small a measure.

If the Trinity Test was the first wound, uranium mining was the second. Coghlan details the concentration of uranium extraction on Native lands, particularly the Navajo Nation and Laguna Pueblo, and the long-term health consequences for miners who were misinformed, unprotected, and ultimately abandoned.

Hundreds of mines remain open and unremediated, continuing to contaminate water, soil, livestock, and communities. This environmental injustice forms the structural backdrop to New Mexico’s status today as what Coghlan bluntly calls “America’s nuclear weapons colony.”

Conghlan strongly criticizes President Trump’s recently floated idea of resuming nuclear weapons testing. From a national security standpoint, Coghlan argues, testing is self-defeating: it would help rival nations “catch up” with U.S. capabilities.

Coghlan draws a distinction between minimal deterrence, which requires a small arsenal, and counterforce, which requires thousands of weapons designed for war fighting. Despite public rhetoric focused on deterrence, he explains, U.S. policy continues to embrace counterforce planning.

As the strategic landscape shifts from a bipolar world to a multipolar one involving Russia, China, and new technologies like hypersonics and AI, Coghlan warns of escalating risks. Coghlan also describes how he forged a partnership with Archbishop John Wester, a leading moral voice on nuclear disarmament. Coghlan tells the story with humor and candor, reflecting on how secular activism and religious leadership can meet in a shared mission: protecting life. Their work together reframes nuclear disarmament as a challenge to ideological boundaries and partisan assumptions.

Episode Timestamps

00:00 — Introduction: New Mexico at the center of nuclear history01:17 — Displacement and the forced removal of Hispanic homesteaders04:55 — Lawsuits, cleanup, transparency, and the politics of accountability08:03 — The modernization program and the Non-Proliferation Treaty10:12 — Uranium vs. plutonium weapons and how modern bombs work16:51 — The risks of new weapon designs and the push for production22:27 — Should we worry about resumed testing? Short-term vs long-term risks24:19 — Why testing is dangerous: fallout, cancer, global deposition26:49 — Underground tests and venting; why testing still poses risks30:15 — Deterrence, counterforce, and the modern nuclear arms race33:40 — AI, escalation risks, and the importance of human judgment36:52 — Proposals to hand weapons-grade plutonium to private entities41:01 — Nuclear winter and the pro-life framing of disarmament

Annelise Riles speaks with Brazilian scholar Fernando Brancoli about the October 2025 police raid in Rio de Janeiro’s favelas—the deadliest in Brazil’s history. Brancoli explains how global arms markets, political dynamics, and historical inequalities have blurred the lines between policing and warfare. They explore how local and global struggles for peace are increasingly intertwined.

Everyday Ambassador welcomes cultural anthropologist Miranda Hallett for a deep dive into El Salvador’s past and present. She explains the legacy of dispossession, U.S. intervention, the rise of MS-13, and President Bukele’s authoritarian turn. Hallett also shares stories of Salvadoran migrants in the U.S. building community and practicing “fugitive citizenship,” finding hope and democracy in the margins.

In this episode of Everyday Ambassador, Annelise Riles speaks with historian Naoko Shimazu about the 1955 Bandung Conference. The gathering of newly independent Asian and African nations marked the rise of the non-aligned movement and showed how informal diplomacy—conversations, relationships, and pageantry—can reshape the world. Their discussion explores what Bandung teaches us about building bridges in a divided world today.