Episode #4 - Joe Maddon

Nick invites 2-Time World Series Champ, and 3-Time "Manager of the Year," Joe Maddon, onto the show to talk about his humble beginnings as a leader, creating a safe space for players to fail, and why an experience with a terrible coach may be just as important as an experience with a great one.

Nick and Joe also discuss Joe's new book, "The Book of Joe: Trying Not to Suck at Baseball and Life" and how creating a positive culture can make all the difference.

If you've ever felt like an underdog, this is your episode.

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