Episode 354: Convergence: Navigating the Blurred Lines Between Public and Private Credit

Chris Gudmastad, Managing Director and Portfolio Manager of Private Credit at Loomis Sayles, returns to the podcast for a deep dive into one of the most important shifts facing institutional investors: the convergence of public and private credit. As the traditional lines between market segments continue to blur, Chris offers a practical and forward-looking view of how insurers can adapt their frameworks for liquidity, complexity, and relative value. With more than 20 years of experience in private placements, structured credit, and insurance-focused investing, Chris walks through how capital structures are evolving, how new vehicles and secondaries are redefining liquidity, and how to apply a unified risk premium framework across asset classes. He also shares insights into organizational convergence and how teams at Loomis are collaborating across disciplines to underwrite complex, cross-market opportunities. Whether you’re refining your private credit allocations or evaluating new structures across public and private markets, this episode offers a grounded perspective on managing risk and return in 2026 and beyond.