
Episode 3: Why So Many Great Leaders Burn Out (And How to Make Sure You Don’t)
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Why do so many high-capacity leaders—pastors, entrepreneurs, parents, and visionaries—burn out after they've achieved success?
In this powerful episode of The Deep Dive, Jose St. Phard sits down with pastor and leadership coach Benjamin Lundquist to expose the hidden cracks in even the most accomplished leaders. Together, they explore the difference between leading strong for a season and leading well for a lifetime.
What if your greatest leadership threat isn’t failure, but success without sustainability?
This conversation is raw, honest, and necessary.
You’ll learn:
- The silent saboteurs of long-term leadership
- Why identity and self-leadership are more important than talent
- How to recognize and address red flags before they take you out
- How to build boundaries that protect what matters most—your marriage, family, health, and soul
- The mindset shift that keeps your leadership sustainable and aligned with God's truth
- How to break spiritual agreements that limit your growth
If you're building something big—but feeling stretched thin—this is your call to realign, refocus, and lead from a place of wholeness.
This episode will challenge and equip you to not just lead better—but live better.
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Chapters- (00:00:00) - What Matters Most in Your Life?
- (00:01:29) - The Deep Dive with Jose Saint Phard
- (00:02:06) - Benjamin on Leading Well in a Lifetime
- (00:03:13) - If You Could Have Lunch With Just One Leader, Who Would It
- (00:04:29) - What is Sustainable Leadership?
- (00:06:15) - Sustainable Leadership: Stewardship of Character
- (00:08:02) - How to Lead Others better
- (00:08:58) - Leaders Need to See Red Flags
- (00:14:20) - Married People on Trump's Behavior
- (00:15:20) - How to Lead Well at Home and in the World
- (00:17:38) - Leading Your Marriage and Leading Your Family
- (00:21:33) - What Matters Most in Life?
- (00:24:02) - Filter Out the Lies in Your Head
- (00:27:35) - Understanding Limiting Beliefs
- (00:31:52) - How Do Leaders Create the Right Mindset for Sustainable Leadership?
- (00:36:12) - 4 Steps to a Better Mind in 2019
- (00:40:17) - Ben Lundquist