Episode 274 - The Kiss and Kill Murder & David Reimer

This week Amber covers the story of Elizabeth "Betty" Jean Williams, who was shot to death in Odessa, Texas, by her ex-boyfriend, John Mack Herring

Then, Naomi covers the tragic story of the medical experimentation inflicted on David Reimer.

Amber's Sources:

Kiss and Kill - Wikipedia

A Kiss Before Dying – Texas Monthly

Killer Claims Girl Begged Him To Shoot Her | by Cat Leigh | Of Misdeeds and Mysteries | Medium

A Crime to Remember S3 E13

Naomi's Sources:

David Reimer - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phimosis

Anti-gender movement - Wikipedia

History of intersex surgery - Wikipedia

John Money - Wikipedia

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