Ep8: David Trotter Interview - Two Former Church Leaders Journey Through Awakening

What happens when church leaders awaken—and choose authenticity over performance?

In this episode of the Unchurching podcast, Clint sits down with David Trotter, former pastor and founder of Awakened magazine, for an honest conversation about life after church leadership and the expansive journey of awakening.

Together, they reflect on leaving behind old belief systems, embracing unconditional love, and discovering the transformative power of curiosity and plant medicine. David shares the struggles many leaders face behind closed doors, the pressure of religious performance, and how healing and freedom begin with authentic conversations.

This dialogue between two former church leaders is an invitation into safety, love, and a broader spirituality—one that goes far beyond the confines of religious structures.

✨ Curiosity is a gift from God.
✨ You can try on new beliefs for a day.
✨ You’re safe, and you’re loved.

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Discover Awakened Magazine

🕒 Chapters
00:00 – Introduction to Awakening Journeys
02:06 – David Trotter's Transformation from Pastor to Coach
04:34 – The Unraveling of Belief Systems
12:04 – Redefining Calling and Purpose
18:38 – The Journey of Self-Discovery
22:16 – The Struggles of Church Leadership
25:47 – Breaking the Silence: Authentic Conversations
30:32 – Releasing Conditional Love
34:13 – Exploring Plant Medicine and Spirituality
42:40 – The Power of Curiosity in Spiritual Growth
52:49 – Experiencing Unconditional Love
59:52 – Defining God Beyond Religion
01:06:07 – The Impact of COVID on Spiritual Awakening
01:09:46 – Final Thoughts on Safety and Love